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Veg Significant Others

I'm just wondering how many people are with another person who shares their lifestyle choices.

My man convinced me to go vegan when we met and we've been happily munching on veggies ever since.  My best friend is also a veg, but her man isn't.  She doesn't make him any animal products at home, but he eats out, brings home packaged, frozen food, etc.  I've noticed how much they seem to fight, over lots of things, but they never seem to touch on the food issue.  I personally think this is kind of the source of their problems.

For those who are with omnivores, how is it you can be with someone who doesn't share your principles? 

What sort of compromises do you make to keep the relationship going? 

Do you buy/prepare meat for your other?

Do you stay with them in the hopes that they'll eventually stop eating meat?

Do they respect your decision to be veg?

Just questions to get you thinking.  Feel free to add/ignore whatever you choose.

i wish i were good at searching for old threads. we have some on the subject (though mostly hypothetical relationships rather than real ones are talked about). i'll try to find some.

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i dated a couple meat eaters.  NEVER AGAIN.  my boy is vegan.  and we both went vegan independently of each other and are kind of at the same "level" of veganess.  neither of us are super strict about things like mono and diglycerides but we do look out for things like whey and sodium sterol lactate.  we wont buy anything with those ingredients, but we will buy beer and/or wine no matter what.  i guess the only vegan difference between us is that hes a honey vegan and i'm a no honey vegan.

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also! if you want this to be a deeper discussion, you might want to move it (can you? or maybe request admin move it) to news and debate, since chit-chat tries to stay lighthearted.
annnd, i am wondering what you mean about the couple you know that fights about everything and (you think) it stems from the ethical difference though that is not what they fight about. can you give an example.
again, though, it might be better once it is on the debate board.

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my opinion is that the issue in the relationship isn't ones dietary/lifestyle choices - but rather, the communication and understanding that exists between members of the relationship for any/all type issues. 

my GF was  a staunch meat-eater when i met her.  she's now (in a year's time) actually observing a mostly vegetarian diet (actually, an all vegetarian diet - but she has some items that she feels might be an achilles heel when the moment presents itself).

when i was single, i never really cared if a potential mate was vegetarian or not.  I actually appreciate the diversity in the relationship when someone is not (while at the same time, appreciate the mutual understanding if someone were to be).  It's sort of like there are some *veggies* that would love to live in a veggie commune, as nice as that sounds - to me it sounds almost selfish (when i say that, i'm not judging other's views, rather only speaking for myself in that i feel ... it would be selfish of *me* - to do that) because i feel the world is better off having veggie" to influence a non-veggie society rather then all us *veggies* hiding away in our own secret society. 

It's funny because even before my gf started following a vegetarian diet - i always thought of her principles as very closely matching those of mine, much more so then many vegetarians i come across.  My principles are way more complex then "i strive to follow a vegan diet".  For me, my "highest" principles (if you will) are love of all creatures, compassion, understanding, non-judgemental, etc.  I've come across many *veggies* whose principles might match my "veggie* to some degree, but would totally not relate in regards to loving all creatures (not just animals, ...because having hatred towards human that eat meat is not loving all creatures), being non-judgemental, compassionate to the growth of others, etc...

As far as when she was a meat eater, what compromises we might make...
- she was more then happy to eat at veggie only restaurants with me (and i was happy to go to "meat dominant" places w/her and find something i can eat)
- she would use a separate pan for making hamburgers

I dunno, there really wasn't a lot of compromise necessary (that i can think of offhand) - we just sort of blended very well.

Would i buy/prepare meat for others?  Mmm, i wouldn't be comfortable to do so - no.  At the same time - she would never ask me to do so.  Would I if she asked, i might - but admittedly - very, very hesitantly.  But is that really that much different then going out to dinner - if i'm paying that night and she happens to order a meat dish.  I didn't pepare it, but i contributed towards it.

Do you stay with them in the hopes that they'll eventually stop eating meat? - nope - it was never a big (if any) factor in my relationship with her.  Being *veggie* is my choice - it's a very personal one to make, i respect everyone's right to make their own, very personal choices.  If i love that person, even if i might not make the same choices - i respect and support them and their right to make their choice.  If their choice is so far out of balance with my views that it makes me uncomfortable - then i'd have to examine that at that time - i imagine.

Do they respect your decision to be veg? - she respects, really - all of my decisions - *veggie* related or otherwise

i'm sure i can (and probably will) add more as the thread populates - but seeing that i've written quite the diatribe at this time, i'll stop here.  As if it wasn't obvious though, i really love the original post on this thread, i love thought provacative discussions like this - so thanks for introducing this.

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also! if you want this to be a deeper discussion, you might want to move it (can you? or maybe request admin move it) to news and debate, since chit-chat tries to stay lighthearted.

i disagree with the above statement.  the OP is not a debate (at least if it is, i'm not seeing it).  i do agree however that it's an attempt at a deeper type of discussion - but i sort of fail to see why that wouldn't equate with "chit chat"

just my $.02....

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well, news and debate isn't just for debate.
but i feel that in the past most threads of this nature have landed in what i would consider to be the realm of the news and debate board rather than chit chat.

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also! if you want this to be a deeper discussion, you might want to move it (can you? or maybe request admin move it) to news and debate, since chit-chat tries to stay lighthearted.

i disagree with the above statement.  the OP is not a debate (at least if it is, i'm not seeing it).  i do agree however that it's an attempt at a deeper type of discussion - but i sort of fail to see why that wouldn't equate with "chit chat"

just my $.02....

These threads usually start here and end up in the debate thread.  Just sayin'.

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i dated a couple meat eaters.  NEVER AGAIN.  my boy is vegan. 

myself - being someone that is relatively indifferent to the dietary lifestyle of my partner - the above statement naturally makes me curious.  May i ask - how come you wouldn't date a meat eater? What factors go into that choice? Have you had bad/negative/uncomfortable experiences in the past that helped shape your your future preferences?

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by the by...moonkeymama - i can't answer your poll question - maybe (if it's possible to revise the questions at this point) there's warrant to add an additional "they're in a transitional phase right now" option on the list of choices...

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For those who are with omnivores, how is it you can be with someone who doesn't share your principles? This question irks me. I think it's complicated.

If he didn't support my choice, I wouldn't stay. However, it is my choice. He has every right to make his own. He does share my principles.

I became vegetarian after we moved in together. He suggested it. Based on my views about animals and whatnot, and a discussion I had with a vegan friend, BF suggested I should try out being vegetarian. He also offered to try it with me, and try he did.

It's just not his thing, at least not right now. He gave it a good few months, but he didn't feel comfortable. I did. So, I continued. He doesn't insult me or discourage me.

What sort of compromises do you make to keep the relationship going? The relationship is not based on what we eat, so compromises that keep the relationship going are things like "I wanted to be married 2 years ago and he's only just now getting into the idea, but I didn't leave him because I was willing to wait until he was ready... because he's the right guy for me."

Do you buy/prepare meat for your other? I don't prepare meat, no. Occasionally I will pick him up something in a drive-thru. We used to have a strict "no-meat-in-the-house" compromise, but I've become more comfortable the longer I'm vegetarian and I don't mind as long as it's not cooked in our apartment, and it doesn't go in the fridge for later.

Do you stay with them in the hopes that they'll eventually stop eating meat? No, I stay with him because I love him. I love him because (although he is not veg*n), he shares my most important values and concerns, he is respectful to everyone (including animals), and he supports me even though I'm a crazy, energetic bundle of ambitions and emotions... and he's more of the strong silent type. He makes a lot of other compromises for me, without my asking.

Do they respect your decision to be veg?
Wholeheartedly. The only point of contention is when we have children. I want to raise them vegetarian, and he is wary of it. He's told me his concern stems from him being unsure of how to do it in a way that is safe and doesn't detract from them being able to "just be kids," so I know we can work through that with some education (for both of us) and communication.

The most important part of my relationship is communication. If something bothers one of us, we let the other know. We're supportive of each other and allow ourselves to be individuals while still maintaining a very close bond. Things were much harder when I was still a new vegetarian and he told me he didn't want to do it anymore. We talked about it, and I understood-- he wasn't against veg*nism, he just didn't feel comfortable doing it himself. If he never becomes a vegetarian, I won't love him any less.

I do not think that just because one person is omni and the other veg*n, it means that is the underlying reason for their arguments or the failure of the relationship.

I think a lack of communication and respect is the more likely source.

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i only have one free hand at the moment, so real quick, sirdidy, I added an option for you to the poll, hopefully it covers what  I missed.

I love what everyone is sharing.  Thanks for doing it.  I'll respond when I have time and the attention to give.

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i only have one free hand at the moment, so real quick, sirdidy, I added an option for you to the poll, hopefully it covers what  I missed.

your addition sufficed for my needs.  i've now answered the poll.  thanks :)

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My ex whom I was with for ten years wasn't vegetarian.  I did all the cooking and it was vegetarian and he supported it and liked the food.  He ate meat when we went out.  

Since the divorce, I've even leaned more away from vegetarian to veganism.....nonleather belts, cleaning products, the whole nine yards.  So someone I find would have to be extra understanding preferably vegan.  But I also know that there aren't many middle aged gay male vegans out there in this city for me to choose from and I ain't doing the online thing and moving.  I might have to settle for reasonably healthy eating, allowing me to do the cooking and enviornmentally aware.

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For those who are with omnivores, how is it you can be with someone who doesn't share your principles?
My husband is omnivorous, but he absolutely respects my principles. It's not an issue.

What sort of compromises do you make to keep the relationship going?
I guess my compromise is that I let him have meat/cheese/milk in the fridge, and his is that he eats vegan when I cook . But I don't think that really is a compromise, because he's getting all he can eat of delicious fresh food which he really enjoys.

Do you buy/prepare meat for your other?
No. But we go grocery shopping together, have all shared bank accounts/credit cards, so I guess, yeah, I do. But I don't prepare it. I don't think he'd want me to, to be honest, because I wouldn't know what to do with it.

Do you stay with them in the hopes that they'll eventually stop eating meat?
Absolutely not. I would never be with anyone I wanted to change. If he ever makes that decision, it will be on his own grounds for his own reasons.

Do they respect your decision to be veg?
Completely.

Further ramblings, kind of on topic: while he has always been a keen meat-consumer, since we have been living together, he has drastically reduced his meat intake, to almost non-existent levels, and he's really happy with that. He admits that this is the healthiest he's ever eaten, and enjoys feeling better because of it. He absolutely loves every vegan meal I've cooked for him, and is constantly suggesting new types of dish to create.  Basically it's only when someone else cooks that he eats meat, or at bbqs. We've talked about how one of the significant reasons why I am vegan is to reduce my environmental impact as much as possible, and he likes the idea that, while not completely cutting out dairy/meat, he is at least reducing his impact too, and further, he knows how happy that makes me, which encourages him more.
That positive attitude, and understanding of the reason why I make the choices I do, is important to both of us, and even if he never makes the veg leap, we'll always be able to work things out.

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http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=25036.0  that's a topic on this all I asked a while ago.

Vegan has just become sooo attractive to me recently...

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i dated a couple meat eaters.  NEVER AGAIN.  my boy is vegan.

myself - being someone that is relatively indifferent to the dietary lifestyle of my partner - the above statement naturally makes me curious.  May i ask - how come you wouldn't date a meat eater? What factors go into that choice? Have you had bad/negative/uncomfortable experiences in the past that helped shape your your future preferences?

1. meaty tasting kisses
2. looking at meat/dairy/eggs
3. smelling meat/dairy/eggs
4. having to use the same pans that cooked meat/dairy/eggs

some people might say that i'm a little too picky in those regards.  but thats how i feel and i'm stickin to it. : )

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wish i had a significant other to begin with...  :-\

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I've been spending time with someone. She's veg (former vegan) but would like to eat better, less processed. I made butternut squash over pasta last night. She was impressed. She's down for the positive influence, which makes all very attractive.
Personally she dosent need to be vegan, but having an understanding and willingness  is appreciated.

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wish i had a significant other to begin with...  :-\

I second that one!

I dont know if i will EVER find a vegan guy here (i'm sure theres one or two here hiding somewhere) I dont think diet would ever be a deal breaker, as long as the respect my beliefs. I think its cool cooking vegan for omnis, so that would be the good thing. If i ever found out a guy i knew/met was vegan, i would POUNCE ON THAT. haha. That makes some one more attractive to me (well that makes sense? sharing beliefs and all). But cooking/buying meat, bleh, no thanks.
I dated 2 guys who thought i was so stupid for not eating meat. Like they would laugh when i said i wouldnt eat something, or tell me i was stupid. But, those didnt last long, as long as they're not like that its fine with me.
But you know, vegan guys, i love them, bring em onnnn!!!! Haha.

Oh oh! i thought of a situation where some one being vegan is a huge negative (but in a weird way positive too?) If they know every single possible thing from animals and theres something i dont know and they criticize me for it. If they're helping me figure out new things, thats great. But if they get all high and mighty, youre not really a vegan on me, then you better back off son.

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