Posted by Kbone on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Jun 2007 · 374 posts
In my opinion Walmart should always be boycotted. I don't think their business practices are compatible with many of the ethical standards I hold.
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Posted by Cephi on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Feb 2007 · 371 posts
I also boycott walmart. They hurt the world a lot.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Dec 1969 · 11789 posts
For those of you that dare enter into a Walmart...I suggest you watch Robert Greenwald's movie: "Walmart, The High Cost of Low Price"..... http://www.walmartmovie.com/
He's the same guy that made "Outfoxed" ...about the Faux News channel.......
Posted by Kbone on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Jun 2007 · 374 posts
For those of you that dare enter into a Walmart...I suggest you watch Robert Greenwald's movie: "Walmart, The High Cost of Low Price"..... http://www.walmartmovie.com/
He's the same guy that made "Outfoxed" ...about the Faux News channel.......
I've seen it. I second your recommendation.
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Posted by humboldt_honey on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Feb 2007 · 12529 posts
I don't know if I'd trust store brand soymilk from Walmart. They press their merchandise providers to sell to them at super low prices, so who knows what chemicals are applied to the soy crops that are made into Walmart soymilk.
This might sound naive, but what do people buy at Walmart?
I get my food, personal care, and cleaning items at the health food store. My clothes come from shops or REI. I can't think of anything else I buy regularly. There are three Walmarts along my commute and the parking lots are pretty full, but I've never figured out why.
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Posted by kylissa on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Oct 2006 · 197 posts
I boycott Walmart as much as possible, but I live in the suburbs of Oklahoma City where Walmart is king and other grocery stores are non-existent. Coming from the city and the north where I never even went to a Walmart, it's really crazy to see how people's lives seem to depend on the place. I go there once in a while to stock up on organic brown rice, vegan cereal, and Silk, where the prices are half of the regular grocery store's price. But I can completely understand how some people on a budget can't resist going there, even though Walmart regularly punches babies and puppies.
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Posted by hoopy~d on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Jun 2007 · 270 posts
I agree. Walmart does suck. They are abusive on a global level. But, I have a question about the alternatives. Do other corporate grocery stores practice more humane business tactics? Where are their products coming from? Does Safeway pay it's employees a living wage? Would I still be an accomplice to human injustice if I buy the same product from Walgreens instead of Walmart? These are just thoughts I have had over the past few years. Finding out which company is ethical and which company is operating out of free trade zones or sweat shops is a full time job in itself. Most name brand products are probably getting produced by some overworked, underpaid person overseas in some horrid, unsafe working environment. I ponder these things because I truly believe in human justice and not supporting capitalist pigs that are intent on hogging resources and getting rich off the labor of those they oppress. Sometimes it is easy to purchase locally and make sure I am supporting a human rather than a corporation. But, I am currently living in Wyoming and there is not much here. What about dish soap? I have started making my own laundry detergent. But, how much responsibility is on an individual's shoulders?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Dec 1969 · 11789 posts
I boycott Walmart as much as possible, but I live in the suburbs of Oklahoma City where Walmart is king and other grocery stores are non-existent. Coming from the city and the north where I never even went to a Walmart, it's really crazy to see how people's lives seem to depend on the place. I go there once in a while to stock up on organic brown rice, vegan cereal, and Silk, where the prices are half of the regular grocery store's price. But I can completely understand how some people on a budget can't resist going there, even though Walmart regularly punches babies and puppies.
Watch the movie I listed above....and if you can swing it....then consider it (the extra money it costs for the products you need) a donation to both human rights and animal rights by spending the extra few bucks to shop elsewhere......well....at least think about it in that "light".....
Posted by Anonymous on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Dec 1969 · 11789 posts
I agree. Walmart does suck. They are abusive on a global level. But, I have a question about the alternatives. Do other corporate grocery stores practice more humane business tactics? Where are their products coming from? Does Safeway pay it's employees a living wage? Would I still be an accomplice to human injustice if I buy the same product from Walgreens instead of Walmart? These are just thoughts I have had over the past few years. Finding how which company is ethical and which company is operating out of free trade zones or sweat shops is a full time job in itself. Most name brand products are probably getting produced by some overworked, underpaid person overseas in some horrid, unsafe working environment. I ponder these things because I truly believe in human justice and not supporting capitalist pigs that are intent on hogging resources and getting rich off the labor of those they oppress. Sometimes it is easy to purchase locally and make sure I am supporting a human rather than a corporation. But, I am currently living in Wyoming and there is not much here. What about dish soap? I have started making my own laundry detergent. But, how much responsibility is on an individual's shoulders?
If there is an alternative to shop elsewhere....just consider Walmart the "worst of the worst".....
Watch the movie....it will "scare the f*ck of you".....you just have to watch it to see what I'm talking about....
Posted by hoopy~d on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Jun 2007 · 270 posts
I agree. Walmart does suck. They are abusive on a global level. But, I have a question about the alternatives. Do other corporate grocery stores practice more humane business tactics? Where are their products coming from? Does Safeway pay it's employees a living wage? Would I still be an accomplice to human injustice if I buy the same product from Walgreens instead of Walmart? These are just thoughts I have had over the past few years. Finding how which company is ethical and which company is operating out of free trade zones or sweat shops is a full time job in itself. Most name brand products are probably getting produced by some overworked, underpaid person overseas in some horrid, unsafe working environment. I ponder these things because I truly believe in human justice and not supporting capitalist pigs that are intent on hogging resources and getting rich off the labor of those they oppress. Sometimes it is easy to purchase locally and make sure I am supporting a human rather than a corporation. But, I am currently living in Wyoming and there is not much here. What about dish soap? I have started making my own laundry detergent. But, how much responsibility is on an individual's shoulders?
If there is an alternative to shop elsewhere....just consider Walmart the "worst of the worst".....
Watch the movie....it will "scare the f*ck of you".....you just have to watch it to see what I'm talking about....
I have seen it. And I avoid Walmart because walking in the store makes me ashamed and pisses me off.
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Posted by kylissa on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Oct 2006 · 197 posts
Watch the movie I listed above....and if you can swing it....then consider it (the extra money it costs for the products you need) a donation to both human rights and animal rights by spending the extra few bucks to shop elsewhere......well....at least think about it in that "light".....
Thanks Davedrum, but I'm already on your side. I hate Walmart and am always telling people about good deals I see at the other groceries and the health food center so they go there instead, I also bring friends to the farmer's market. I go to Walmart maybe once every 2 months out of deperation and spend about 5 dollars. I just was saying that I see every day how Joe Normal people around here have little else for options, and little money to make donations towards better businesses. Walmart is an evil company for sure.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Dec 1969 · 11789 posts
Watch the movie I listed above....and if you can swing it....then consider it (the extra money it costs for the products you need) a donation to both human rights and animal rights by spending the extra few bucks to shop elsewhere......well....at least think about it in that "light".....
Thanks Davedrum, but I'm already on your side. I hate Walmart and am always telling people about good deals I see at the other groceries and the health food center so they go there instead, I also bring friends to the farmer's market. I go to Walmart maybe once every 2 months out of deperation and spend about 5 dollars. I just was saying that I see every day how Joe Normal people around here have little else for options, and little money to make donations towards better businesses. Walmart is an evil company for sure.
No problem kylissa, :) Trust me...I was not "calling you out" in anyway! ;) I too live in a very rural area....and I'm shortly moving back to a very rural area in Upstate, NY. Walmart seems to be "KING" in rural America....going after peoples dollars and eliminating any other choice as to where to shop. At the same time...they take advantage of the workforce in the rural areas...knowing that there are many willing to take any job they can get...with little pay and no insurance. >:(
Where I live now....if I pull out of my driveway...I can get to a Walmart driving 10 minutes in either direction (Dahlonega, GA or another brand new one in Dawsonville, GA)....it takes me a minimum of 40 minutes to get to Whole Foods....right where the Dawsonville Walmart is...there is a Kroger..but I've been limiting my shopping there these days as well...they are "FAR" from being a "good company" to shop at....but much better then "Wally World"....(which is what I like to call Walmart)... :D
My best friend John and I have walked into the Walmart here in Dahlonega (the one here in the county where I live in the mountains of No. GA)....at 5pm on a Friday, just to "people watch"....it's one of the "saddest sites you could possibly see"....those that live hand to mouth...and how they start spending their paychecks there....almost scary...
...those shopping there and spending the "little" they have....well, they just don't "know" any better..... :-\
Posted by humboldt_honey on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Feb 2007 · 12529 posts
But, how much responsibility is on an individual's shoulders?
In a market economy, all of the of responsibility is on individual shoulders. I find it empowering to know I can help people or the environment by the choices I make while shopping.
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Posted by secondbase on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Dec 2005 · 5540 posts
I'm going to hop on the "Walmart: The high price of low cost" documentary bandwagon because it's a good documentary.
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Posted by lime green on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Apr 2007 · 634 posts
when my former roomate came home with a bag of stuff from wal mart i rented that movie and forced her to watch it. we both cried (granted our cycles were synched up and we were both pms-ing), and she vowed never to enter a wal mart again. i know that almost all corporate grocery stores are unionized, but i'm not sure about target or other superstores (does anyone have info on this?). so you may be spending extra money to buy your soymilk at a safeway or a ralphs, but at least you know that the employees are treated with a basic set of standards. trader joes is not union, but they still have double pay on holidays and great insurance benefits. but yes, to those of you who sometimes shop at wal mart, please stop. please ask others to stop.
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Posted by Meggs on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Jun 2007 · 3572 posts
I never liked Wal Mart then I read "Nickel and Dimed" by Barbara Ehrenreich and it just reinforced my beliefs that wal mart is evil.
To each his/her own though. I know plenty of people who shop there.
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Posted by lotus42 on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Mar 2007 · 3081 posts
I hate Wal-Mart. I grew up a "Wal-Mart girl," in a ....yep, you guess it! Small, rural area. I used to think people who shunned Wal-Mart were snobby..you know, "too good" to shop at Wal-Mart. But once I learned about their awful practices, I stopped shopping there.
I realized that I actually spend LESS money now that I've stopped shopping there. I noticed that I got caught in the trap. I would go in for a few things, but get sidetracked by all the "stuff" that's there, and would end up buying stuff I didn't need (yay marketing!!!).
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Posted by humboldt_honey on Sep 21, 2007 · Member since Feb 2007 · 12529 posts
i know that almost all corporate grocery stores are unionized, but i'm not sure about target or other superstores (does anyone have info on this?).
I worked at Target when I first started college. My co-worker quit to work at WalMart and said they were much worse to their employees. Target managers were generally hacks, but they were good at working around ever-changing college schedules and finals week. I still know some people there - they're not unionized.
it does now...
But it wasn't a super walmart though. How I wish.
Too bad they don't have more veggie stuff like the veggie meats etc
In my opinion Walmart should always be boycotted. I don't think their business practices are compatible with many of the ethical standards I hold.
I also boycott walmart. They hurt the world a lot.
For those of you that dare enter into a Walmart...I suggest you watch Robert Greenwald's movie: "Walmart, The High Cost of Low Price"..... http://www.walmartmovie.com/
He's the same guy that made "Outfoxed" ...about the Faux News channel.......
For those of you that dare enter into a Walmart...I suggest you watch Robert Greenwald's movie: "Walmart, The High Cost of Low Price"..... http://www.walmartmovie.com/
He's the same guy that made "Outfoxed" ...about the Faux News channel.......
I've seen it. I second your recommendation.
I don't know if I'd trust store brand soymilk from Walmart. They press their merchandise providers to sell to them at super low prices, so who knows what chemicals are applied to the soy crops that are made into Walmart soymilk.
This might sound naive, but what do people buy at Walmart?
I get my food, personal care, and cleaning items at the health food store. My clothes come from shops or REI. I can't think of anything else I buy regularly. There are three Walmarts along my commute and the parking lots are pretty full, but I've never figured out why.
I boycott Walmart as much as possible, but I live in the suburbs of Oklahoma City where Walmart is king and other grocery stores are non-existent. Coming from the city and the north where I never even went to a Walmart, it's really crazy to see how people's lives seem to depend on the place. I go there once in a while to stock up on organic brown rice, vegan cereal, and Silk, where the prices are half of the regular grocery store's price. But I can completely understand how some people on a budget can't resist going there, even though Walmart regularly punches babies and puppies.
I agree. Walmart does suck. They are abusive on a global level. But, I have a question about the alternatives. Do other corporate grocery stores practice more humane business tactics? Where are their products coming from? Does Safeway pay it's employees a living wage? Would I still be an accomplice to human injustice if I buy the same product from Walgreens instead of Walmart? These are just thoughts I have had over the past few years. Finding out which company is ethical and which company is operating out of free trade zones or sweat shops is a full time job in itself. Most name brand products are probably getting produced by some overworked, underpaid person overseas in some horrid, unsafe working environment.
I ponder these things because I truly believe in human justice and not supporting capitalist pigs that are intent on hogging resources and getting rich off the labor of those they oppress. Sometimes it is easy to purchase locally and make sure I am supporting a human rather than a corporation. But, I am currently living in Wyoming and there is not much here. What about dish soap? I have started making my own laundry detergent. But, how much responsibility is on an individual's shoulders?
I boycott Walmart as much as possible, but I live in the suburbs of Oklahoma City where Walmart is king and other grocery stores are non-existent. Coming from the city and the north where I never even went to a Walmart, it's really crazy to see how people's lives seem to depend on the place. I go there once in a while to stock up on organic brown rice, vegan cereal, and Silk, where the prices are half of the regular grocery store's price. But I can completely understand how some people on a budget can't resist going there, even though Walmart regularly punches babies and puppies.
Watch the movie I listed above....and if you can swing it....then consider it (the extra money it costs for the products you need) a donation to both human rights and animal rights by spending the extra few bucks to shop elsewhere......well....at least think about it in that "light".....
I agree. Walmart does suck. They are abusive on a global level. But, I have a question about the alternatives. Do other corporate grocery stores practice more humane business tactics? Where are their products coming from? Does Safeway pay it's employees a living wage? Would I still be an accomplice to human injustice if I buy the same product from Walgreens instead of Walmart? These are just thoughts I have had over the past few years. Finding how which company is ethical and which company is operating out of free trade zones or sweat shops is a full time job in itself. Most name brand products are probably getting produced by some overworked, underpaid person overseas in some horrid, unsafe working environment.
I ponder these things because I truly believe in human justice and not supporting capitalist pigs that are intent on hogging resources and getting rich off the labor of those they oppress. Sometimes it is easy to purchase locally and make sure I am supporting a human rather than a corporation. But, I am currently living in Wyoming and there is not much here. What about dish soap? I have started making my own laundry detergent. But, how much responsibility is on an individual's shoulders?
If there is an alternative to shop elsewhere....just consider Walmart the "worst of the worst".....
Watch the movie....it will "scare the f*ck of you".....you just have to watch it to see what I'm talking about....
I agree. Walmart does suck. They are abusive on a global level. But, I have a question about the alternatives. Do other corporate grocery stores practice more humane business tactics? Where are their products coming from? Does Safeway pay it's employees a living wage? Would I still be an accomplice to human injustice if I buy the same product from Walgreens instead of Walmart? These are just thoughts I have had over the past few years. Finding how which company is ethical and which company is operating out of free trade zones or sweat shops is a full time job in itself. Most name brand products are probably getting produced by some overworked, underpaid person overseas in some horrid, unsafe working environment.
I ponder these things because I truly believe in human justice and not supporting capitalist pigs that are intent on hogging resources and getting rich off the labor of those they oppress. Sometimes it is easy to purchase locally and make sure I am supporting a human rather than a corporation. But, I am currently living in Wyoming and there is not much here. What about dish soap? I have started making my own laundry detergent. But, how much responsibility is on an individual's shoulders?
If there is an alternative to shop elsewhere....just consider Walmart the "worst of the worst".....
Watch the movie....it will "scare the f*ck of you".....you just have to watch it to see what I'm talking about....
I have seen it. And I avoid Walmart because walking in the store makes me ashamed and pisses me off.
Watch the movie I listed above....and if you can swing it....then consider it (the extra money it costs for the products you need) a donation to both human rights and animal rights by spending the extra few bucks to shop elsewhere......well....at least think about it in that "light".....
Thanks Davedrum, but I'm already on your side. I hate Walmart and am always telling people about good deals I see at the other groceries and the health food center so they go there instead, I also bring friends to the farmer's market. I go to Walmart maybe once every 2 months out of deperation and spend about 5 dollars. I just was saying that I see every day how Joe Normal people around here have little else for options, and little money to make donations towards better businesses. Walmart is an evil company for sure.
Watch the movie I listed above....and if you can swing it....then consider it (the extra money it costs for the products you need) a donation to both human rights and animal rights by spending the extra few bucks to shop elsewhere......well....at least think about it in that "light".....
Thanks Davedrum, but I'm already on your side. I hate Walmart and am always telling people about good deals I see at the other groceries and the health food center so they go there instead, I also bring friends to the farmer's market. I go to Walmart maybe once every 2 months out of deperation and spend about 5 dollars. I just was saying that I see every day how Joe Normal people around here have little else for options, and little money to make donations towards better businesses. Walmart is an evil company for sure.
No problem kylissa, :)
Trust me...I was not "calling you out" in anyway! ;)
I too live in a very rural area....and I'm shortly moving back to a very rural area in Upstate, NY. Walmart seems to be "KING" in rural America....going after peoples dollars and eliminating any other choice as to where to shop. At the same time...they take advantage of the workforce in the rural areas...knowing that there are many willing to take any job they can get...with little pay and no insurance. >:(
Where I live now....if I pull out of my driveway...I can get to a Walmart driving 10 minutes in either direction (Dahlonega, GA or another brand new one in Dawsonville, GA)....it takes me a minimum of 40 minutes to get to Whole Foods....right where the Dawsonville Walmart is...there is a Kroger..but I've been limiting my shopping there these days as well...they are "FAR" from being a "good company" to shop at....but much better then "Wally World"....(which is what I like to call Walmart)... :D
My best friend John and I have walked into the Walmart here in Dahlonega (the one here in the county where I live in the mountains of No. GA)....at 5pm on a Friday, just to "people watch"....it's one of the "saddest sites you could possibly see"....those that live hand to mouth...and how they start spending their paychecks there....almost scary...
...those shopping there and spending the "little" they have....well, they just don't "know" any better..... :-\
But, how much responsibility is on an individual's shoulders?
In a market economy, all of the of responsibility is on individual shoulders. I find it empowering to know I can help people or the environment by the choices I make while shopping.
I'm going to hop on the "Walmart: The high price of low cost" documentary bandwagon because it's a good documentary.
when my former roomate came home with a bag of stuff from wal mart i rented that movie and forced her to watch it. we both cried (granted our cycles were synched up and we were both pms-ing), and she vowed never to enter a wal mart again.
i know that almost all corporate grocery stores are unionized, but i'm not sure about target or other superstores (does anyone have info on this?). so you may be spending extra money to buy your soymilk at a safeway or a ralphs, but at least you know that the employees are treated with a basic set of standards. trader joes is not union, but they still have double pay on holidays and great insurance benefits.
but yes, to those of you who sometimes shop at wal mart, please stop. please ask others to stop.
I never liked Wal Mart then I read "Nickel and Dimed" by Barbara Ehrenreich and it just reinforced my beliefs that wal mart is evil.
To each his/her own though. I know plenty of people who shop there.
I hate Wal-Mart. I grew up a "Wal-Mart girl," in a ....yep, you guess it! Small, rural area. I used to think people who shunned Wal-Mart were snobby..you know, "too good" to shop at Wal-Mart. But once I learned about their awful practices, I stopped shopping there.
I realized that I actually spend LESS money now that I've stopped shopping there. I noticed that I got caught in the trap. I would go in for a few things, but get sidetracked by all the "stuff" that's there, and would end up buying stuff I didn't need (yay marketing!!!).
i know that almost all corporate grocery stores are unionized, but i'm not sure about target or other superstores (does anyone have info on this?).
I worked at Target when I first started college. My co-worker quit to work at WalMart and said they were much worse to their employees. Target managers were generally hacks, but they were good at working around ever-changing college schedules and finals week. I still know some people there - they're not unionized.
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