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Gross. Got milk?

Gross.  Apparently, since all the kids in SC are fat, the news is featuring "weight loss tips for kids and their families."  Anyway, tonight they had a "got milk" lady on the show promoting th  3 glasses of low fat milk a day instead of drinking soda.  Apparently they are doing promotions all week at local grocery stores where you can "mominate" your mom because she gives you milk to make you healthy. 

Umm. Hey fat kids...ever heard of water and getting off the couch? 

Sorry.  I know that was insensitive.

Too too true!

Milk is more healthy than soda, but I don't see it as a good way to loose weight, honestly, does milk have less calories than soda?  Something about that logic seems flawed to me.  Water is the best thing to drink when trying to  loose weight!

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.....And laying off the chips, fried fat, and candy?

Anyway, isn't 3 glasses of milk a day a lot of milk? I agree, the tip should of been drink more water.

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Well, I have no doubt that milk is better for you than soda, but yeah, I don't get why they don't just tell people to drink water (well, i DO know why...subsidies...lobbyists...etc).

Ummm...don't quote me on this, but I think I remember skim milk having 80 calories for 8 oz.  Soda varies by brand, but I think a can of Coke (12 oz)  has 100 calories.  So, it's really not much difference anyway.  Calories aside, soda is considerably less healthy...but still...that's not the point.  you know?  

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Oh, AND I forgot...they did this whole "bit" where the news people interviewing the lady drank samples of milk to purposely give themselves milk moustaches.  i thought i was gonna vomit. :P

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Well, I have no doubt that milk is better for you than soda, but yeah, I don't get why they don't just tell people to drink water (well, i DO know why...subsidies...lobbyists...etc).

Yeah, no one stands to make a profit from increased water consumption.  Except, of course, the bottled water industry.  Oy, what a sunny situation.

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i believe a can of soda has more like 180 calories. i think it's the sugar that does more damage than the calories in soda though. because sugar gets stored as fat...

i know it doesn't make much of a difference, but one of the reasons they could be promoting milk is because there have been studies that if you consume even low-fat dairy, your body gets rid of more fat. seriously... people were studied... crap was collected... and the fat was measured from it... *shudder*. but i also think that a bit of a healthier diet and exercise was included in that study. it wasn't just... switch their soda to milk and wow look how much weight they lost

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I remember hearing several months back that the Federal Trade Commission said that dairy industries were no longer allowed to have weight loss ads because the claims had no scientific basis.  Huh.  ???

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I'm not sure if soda is worse for you than milk. I think they both have their bad sides: milk has animal protein that leaches calcium from your bones and female growth hormones that give men man-boobs and women more fat, not to mention antibiotics (we are talking commercial milk here)--on the other hand, soda's high sugar content will rot your teeth, reek havoc on your blood sugar, make you jittery and hyper for a few hours and then crash you, leach calcium from your bones because of the high phosphorus content, as well as turning into fat if you don't burn it. I avoid both.

Then we can talk about the ethical factor here: the plain truth is... cows are milked to death and ground up into meat (we are talking millions and possibly billions of cows (not sure about billions) as well as being abused and constantly inseminated and given antibiotics and sometimes bovine growth hormone (I heard they are trying to eliminate this practice as it becomes more aware of--Publix (grocery store in GA and FL) said they won't buy milk produced with it). Coke, on the other hand, supports the Iditarod (which has killed hundreds of the husky and American Eskimo sled dogs--I love my Eskie!) as well as bullfighting in Mexico and Spain (if you don't know how the bulls are treated and put into darkness for days I recommend you read about it).

Both are very cruel, so next time THINK before you drink coke or milk. In my opinion, I'd say milk is worse in terms of environmental damage (feeding the cows+land etc...) and the issue of ethics, for me milk is more ethically wrong than Coke--although they are both very cruel. I also believe and always will that milk should never be consumed by humans (this is my and many others' opinion)... it is milk meant for the nurturing and growth of a mother's baby calf and is not natural, in any way, shape or form to be consumed by humans (how do you think milk makes them grow into 600 pounds or more?). Milk definitely takes the cake on all issues and can be backed up by research, but I'll let you make the call whether to consume it or not.

Happy Trails! :cow:

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Well, I have no doubt that milk is better for you than soda, but yeah, I don't get why they don't just tell people to drink water (well, i DO know why...subsidies...lobbyists...etc).

Yeah, no one stands to make a profit from increased water consumption.  Except, of course, the bottled water industry.  Oy, what a sunny situation.

I always get really insulted when I have to pay for water. The most important a person needs for survival for sale?! Trying to sell it as if it's "pure water", filtered and devoid of bacteria and whatnot! Just the plastic of the bottle is enough to make a person sick! And it's just tap water! At work, you have the choice of drinking water or being a member of the "water club" and then you have the right to drink water from the dispenser.

One of the things that really isses me off.

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I paid .15 cents the other day for a cup of water at the mall...

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Well, I have no doubt that milk is better for you than soda, but yeah, I don't get why they don't just tell people to drink water (well, i DO know why...subsidies...lobbyists...etc).

Yeah, no one stands to make a profit from increased water consumption.  Except, of course, the bottled water industry.  Oy, what a sunny situation.

I always get really insulted when I have to pay for water. The most important a person needs for survival for sale?! Trying to sell it as if it's "pure water", filtered and devoid of bacteria and whatnot! Just the plastic of the bottle is enough to make a person sick! And it's just tap water! At work, you have the choice of drinking water or being a member of the "water club" and then you have the right to drink water from the dispenser.

One of the things that really isses me off.

Yeah, don't even get me started about bottled water!  Bottled water is filthy compared to tap, in general.  It's regulated by the FDA, whereas tap is regulated by the EPA.  This basically means that testing guidelines aren't as strict for bottled water, because the EPA is directly responsible for public safety.  Bottled water is WAY more likely to have bacteria, and it doesn't have to meet the guidelines that the EPA does for many other contaminants.  The idea that bottled water is cleaner is a total crock. 

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Well, I have no doubt that milk is better for you than soda, but yeah, I don't get why they don't just tell people to drink water (well, i DO know why...subsidies...lobbyists...etc).

Yeah, no one stands to make a profit from increased water consumption.  Except, of course, the bottled water industry.  Oy, what a sunny situation.

I always get really insulted when I have to pay for water. The most important a person needs for survival for sale?! Trying to sell it as if it's "pure water", filtered and devoid of bacteria and whatnot! Just the plastic of the bottle is enough to make a person sick! And it's just tap water! At work, you have the choice of drinking water or being a member of the "water club" and then you have the right to drink water from the dispenser.

One of the things that really isses me off.

Yeah, don't even get me started about bottled water!  Bottled water is filthy compared to tap, in general.  It's regulated by the FDA, whereas tap is regulated by the EPA.  This basically means that testing guidelines aren't as strict for bottled water, because the EPA is directly responsible for public safety.  Bottled water is WAY more likely to have bacteria, and it doesn't have to meet the guidelines that the EPA does for many other contaminants.  The idea that bottled water is cleaner is a total crock. 

Well now, let's consider spring and distilled water. Although, I do prefer a good deonizer and water filter any day to that. I got the stuff that oxygenates, mineralizes, and gives electrolytes.  8-)

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Since I'm from TX...I always had bottled water (my mom always bought the Ozarka spring water), and I basically just never tried water from the tap b/c I 'knew' it would always be gross. After Patrick and I got together, I started drinking water at restaurants...because he always did...and I realized it was probably just tap water, and was completely fine (except in certain times of the year..when the lake was turning..ew). Needless to say, I've now evolved from always bottled water-->water at restaurants with ice-->drinking glass after glass of water straight from the tap w/o ice (currently). AND that's my water story!
The thought of bottled water now seems completely absurd to me.
I also used to think it was so weird that on tv/movies..they would show people drinking w/o ice...but now ice is weird to me.  ;)

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I'm from the country, so my parents had their own well behind the house. But when I moved to Moncton, the "big city", I started drinking water from bottles, because Moncton had a long history with "troubled waters". Plus, it tasted way too much like chlorine. But the situation is way better now, and apparently, is one the of best water to drink in the province, I think. They've had so many problems that they are being extra careful now.

AC, about the 0.15 $ for the water, it just makes you think. If they have to charge you for water, it just goes to show how precious it is, and how rare. I know I get mad or "annoyed" when I have to pay for water, but sometimes I forget that there are a lot of people who don't have access to clean water, and that I'm lucky to be in a place where I can get water from the tap. So, I don't mind paying a tax, so that the water that I drink is healthy to drink. I just don't like paying for bottled water, because like KMK said, the big companies don't have dues to pay to anyone, but their shareholders.

About the Got Milk campaign in schools, it's just wrong. When I was young, I hated cow milk, I just thought it was disgusting, but I drank it because I thought that's what was good for me. Turns out, milk is definitely not good for me, since I'm lactose intolerant. That being said, when you're a kid, you're seldom taught about choices and you're so easily gullible. Kids should know about the wonders of drinking water and exercising, etc. As if drinking milk will make you lose weight, pff.

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Milk is meant to FATTEN BABY COWS.
The end.
Grrrr.

When I was young, I hated cow milk, I just thought it was disgusting, but I drank it because I thought that's what was good for me.

Same here!  I went from hating milk, to loving it, to hating it, actually.  So silly. 

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I despise the Milk People.  I don't even understand why they are allowed to direct market to children anyway.  Its proven that milk is full of fat, hormones and antibiotics....so yeah, lets feed it to the kids...grrr...

At my children's school, they have posters of freakin Hannah Montana and Shrek with milk mustaches....ahhh....drives me nuts.  Next, they will probably have posters with a huge steak or something about protein. Of course, then they wouldn't have the cute little milk mustaches.  It would be like a blood mustache or something...gross...that gives me an idea for a anti-meat poster, though!

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Lotus, where do you live in SC? I live in Myrtle Beach. I didn't even know there were other vegans here! :D

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Since I'm from TX...I always had bottled water (my mom always bought the Ozarka spring water), and I basically just never tried water from the tap b/c I 'knew' it would always be gross. After Patrick and I got together, I started drinking water at restaurants...because he always did...and I realized it was probably just tap water, and was completely fine (except in certain times of the year..when the lake was turning..ew). Needless to say, I've now evolved from always bottled water-->water at restaurants with ice-->drinking glass after glass of water straight from the tap w/o ice (currently). AND that's my water story!
The thought of bottled water now seems completely absurd to me.
I also used to think it was so weird that on tv/movies..they would show people drinking w/o ice...but now ice is weird to me.  ;)

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I've always thought Ozarka water tastes like it has a pinch of dirt in it!  Sorry.  When we lived in Lubbock we had to buy RO water because of the high calcium and sodium in the water.  DH has kidney stone problems and gets attacks if he drinks high mineral water.  We bought it in 5 gallon bottles for our own dispenser and reused the 5 gallon bottle.  The West Texas water in places like Big Spring, Midland, Ft. Stockton has so much sulfur in it that it tastes horrible so most people who can afford it drink RO water. 

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Ugh, I grew up drinking well water...delicious water.  In Missouri the water is naturally filtered through a thick layer of sand and limestone so it is loaded with calcium and magnesium, no chlorine, flouride or other nasty chemicals in it.  Now I live in the city and I won't drink the tap water unless it is filtered first.  I hate the taste of tap water.  It tastes like pool water. 

But I know what you mean about milk, I used to drink it too, grew up drinking 2 gallons of the stuff a week!  Then I tried Silk Soymilk because I heard it was more healthy for you about three years ago.  At first I was like...ewww this is gross...but I had bought a half gallon of it and no dairy milk, and I was poor so I was not about to let it go to waste.  But after I drank the second, then thrid cups, and then the whole half gallon, I was hooked.  Haven't gone back to cow milk again.  Love soymilk now.  Can't live without it.

Anyway, somebody mentioned something about the Iditarod dog sled race?  You think it is cruel?  Do you also think that dog sledding is cruel? 
I pretty much agree with everyone on this site about everything except that.  After living in Alaska I have seen those dogs used for those races, have seen dogs hitched up to sleds and running, have seen dog teams hitched up to 4 wheelers during the summer pulling their musher around(training for dog sled racing), seen dogs hitched up to skiiers pulling them around (sport called ski-joring), and I don't think I have ever seen happier dogs.  Those people LOVE their dogs, and those dogs LOVE their owners.  I even had my own sled dog for awhile, sort of, and boy did he love to pull.  I hitched him to my bicycle and let him pull me around (sport called bike-joring), boy you should have seen the smile on  his face as he pulled me around on my bike.  Those are some really happy dogs!  Never once did I ever see any whips or anything like that.  The dogs are completely trained - gee means right, haw means left, whoa means stop, lets go - means go or go faster, I wish I could be a musher, it looks like so much fun, but a lot of work too.  My neighbor was a musher and had 18 dogs that she used to compete.  Never in a million years would I ever think that she abused those dogs in any way, those dogs were very happy, and she took very good care of them. 

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