picky eaters
Posted by perSue on May 28, 2008 · Member since Jun 2005 · 6 posts
okay so i'm (newly) vegan.
i do so mostly for health (as i can't digest meat or dairy anymore).
but my family enjoys meat every now and then.
i'm the main cook in our house, but refuse to impose my dietary desires onto others.
however, the guys here are great and eat most of what i put in front of them.
here's the prob:
they dont like "different" looking or smelling foods.
i dont like asian foods (ie, soy sauce, or anything similar to it).
so stuff like hummus, falafel, soy products, seitan, etc... are no-no's!
(i'll eat 'em tho!)
rather than making several different meals for ONE night...
what "normal"-like food recommendations do you have?
here's the prob:
they dont like "different" looking or smelling foods.
i dont like asian foods (ie, soy sauce, or anything similar to it).
so stuff like hummus, falafel, soy products, seitan, etc... are no-no's!
(i'll eat 'em tho!)
I'm confused. Why are those things no-nos? They are not like soy sauce...because they smell different? There are SO many different things you can do with all of those foods. I say since you're the one cooking (and I won't argue with your refusing to "impose"...), they need to at least try some different things. They don't like them b/c they LOOK different? Eh! Try some delicious "different" things...and I'm sure there's something they would like. I recommend the vegan bacon: http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=7675.0
Make some BLTs or even BLTs with Chik'n patties or something...
and the BBQ tofu cubes:
http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=7427.0
Serve those with rice or mashed potatoes...or anything!
I just realized that both of those have some soy sauce....but they don't taste like soy sauce.
I dunno...I think you should all try new, great things! :)
i agree w/ AC about the veggie bacon!!! ;)b sooo good.
I think maybe you are looking for the typical "comfort" foods that pple grow up on? or are familar with? try seasoning tofu and seitan w/ familar flavors (like the smoke in the veg bacon).
try pastas w/ veggies, vegan sauce...the stuffed shells on here is good. Use the tofu ricotta in many different ways...not only for shells, but lasagna, stuff zucchini, topping for brushetta, etc
veggie pot pies are good. you can eventually sneak in some cubed tofu or seitan in there. There are alot of convincing chik or "beef" broths which help flavor the tofu and gravy. give em a shot.
veggie pizza.
Buffalo chik nugs (using tofu)
BBQ tofu
serve w/ mashed or baked potatoes (try sweet taters or squash!).
Mexican foods using various beans, veggies, even smart ground soy crumbles (really good!). Make tacos, burritos, mexican casseroles.
One thing omnis have really liked are frozen sausages, Morningstar is not vegan, but veg...im not sure about boca tho. People really seem to like em...you can put them in pasta, w/ sauce, on pizza, for breakfast, etc.
Use familar herb blends...like poultry seasonings, italien blends, etc.
You might be surprised how people can become receptive to new flavors. Just dont do it all at once. I have had a number of my family members who have broken out of their food "comfort zone" and started to enjoy some thai, indian or asian style foods. we grew up in a very bland "meat and potatoes" kind of home, so cumin and chili powder were exotic to us!
Boy can I relate! My husband's mom served about 5 recipes in rotation, all week long. So he was a picky eater: he didn't like her food, because it was bland, but if it had roots and stems, he didn't want to know!
Start with vegan versions of standard dishes: pastas, chillis, soups, casseroles. Things they're familiar with. Don't go too heavy on the faux meats just at first...because they only replace meat after you've been away from it for awhile. A meat eater will notice, I guarantee. Start with say, spaghetti with an exciting sauce of "pizza vegetables" like mushrooms, lots of mushrooms, and chopped pepper and onion and like that in a tomato base. Black olives if they like them. Go for hearty beany soups and chillis, sometimes you can "get away" with TVP in chili but really ramp up the flavour for that. And don't make a to-do about a dish being vegan when you serve it...let them taste it first. Good soup is good soup, whether the broth is veggie broth or something else!
Give them time. Don't talk, cook. Prove that vegan food is tasty as well as healthy, and little by little they'll adapt without a lot of fuss. Two years ago DH would make "puke" noises at the sight of tofu. Now he asks for it!
They'll start trying new things after a while, but just don't force them. I started out cooking my husband his usual chicken or pork chop dinner & making myself tofu or tempeh right along side it, now he's requesting that I make things like dahl, chick pea cutlets & dragonfly's ribs. What are some of their current favorites? we can try to veganize those. Are they understanding of why you want to eat vegan? If you order a free peta vegitarian starter kit & leave it out on a counter or coffee table, it might help open a dialog about all the benefits of reducing their intake of meat & dairy.
I can really relate to this because I'm married to an omni who is a VERY picky eater. He refuses to eat tofu in any form (though I sneak it past him in the best mac&cheese recipe from here), or tempeh, or anything else he doesn't see as "normal food". It is very hard because I don't want to cook meat for him but he is unwilling to budge. He will eat vegan chili and soups, mac&cheeze, stir-fry, and he is starting to open up to more asian foods (he recently tried Thai and Vietnamese). I've also found that rice casseroles and veggie tacos/burritos work well. I know my husband's issue is just fear of the unknown, but it can be very frustrating. I was afraid of tofu in the beginning too, but now I eat it just about every day! It is definitely a great idea to try and veganize their fav recipes, that might win em over...
you all have some really good ideas.
here's an example of what i've made.
i really like polenta... but got the "it's bland" (ok so next time, i make homemade, add veggies & herbs) and top it w/a pico de gallo (or cheese for them). and they scooted all the polenta to the side and ate the rest of the food. *sigh*
i've made hm pierogies, "eww, what's that!" *sigh*
i'm made gnocci... "it's not like pasta!" DUH!!!
now, i dont like creamy/cheesy/milky anything... sauces, gravies, nothing. thankfully, dh doesnt either.
i also dont like most soy products (as i never much liked the real taste of meats).. but will endulge in a veggie burge every now & then.
my fam is good enough to "usually" try stuff... we made "sloppy joes" w/the crumbles... no one liked it. BUT they ate it! chili, same thing... sketti sauce, same thing.
so no "fake" meats for them.
I'm not trying to convert them. i dont care WHAT they eat... when not around me.
I dont care if I end up cooking chicken (since it comes in a box and all i gotta do it heat it up!)... and that's about all they eat. I dont much like the smell of raw meats, so if they want "red meat"... we go out somewhere.
and that's fine.
I did make black bean burgers and got "not bad"... but hummus... LOL kiddo thought was cheese! LOL
but he wouldnt eat it on a sandwich or anything... maybe dip veggies/crackers in it tho.
dh wont touch it . "it smells funny."
so i'm stuck with making spaghetti's, pasta bake (lotsa added veggies), potatoes and veggies and soups.
sometimes i can make just beans and cornbread and they're ok with that.
but my DH grew up with the SAME meals served TOO!
part of his pickiness. he's willing to try anything "if he can tolerate the smell."
Well, i'll be honest... lots of foods dont smell good to me at all... but i end up eating 'em... cuz the taste is a bit different. he doesnt buy that. lol
so it's just difficult.
i have enough trouble remembering to eat, that when I do get a chance to eat, i'm dead tired of spaghetti.... or baked potato with steamed broccoli (chicken for them).
when I do make something different... ie, falafel or chick pea burgers... i get "eww that looks gross".
once that's set in... well, there's no getting 'em to try ANYthing.
i should just be happy they're willing to eat most meals (i'd say 90%) meatless. :)
thanks again
Drat, I was going to suggest that you try vegan chili & cornbread... it's often a big hit with omnis. Sure, they know it's meatless, but there isn't the slightest hint of weirdness about it. :) Looks like you already covered that base.
Do they like soup? Pea soup? Bean soups? Those might work, and gives you room to serve sandwiches or salads on the side. A vegan BLT with the above recommended bacon is pretty tasty, and probably won't freak them out much... they can pick off the bacon if they don't like it. Or just assemble a stack of bread, a platter of different vegetarian salad fixings, and some tasty spreads (mustard, whatever) and let them build their own. Picky eaters love to build their own sandwiches, tacos, burritos, wraps, whatever -- just give them various options and let them decide how adventurous to be. Enjoy your own selections with gusto and maybe they will be tempted to go bold.
How about taco salad? Greens and veggies under, then slightly crushed chips, then beans & salsa -- what's not to love?
If you're like me, barbecue sauce is your friend. Use 2 parts or more of canned crushed tomatoes to every part of barbecue sauce to cut down on the salt & vinegar & sugar, and slather your cooked veggies or beans in it... it's delicious on buns. Just skip the fake meat and go for some nice, recognizable veggies in an easy-to-like sauce. I like onions, carrots, and cooked lentils in it as my sloppy joe filling.
As for your polenta... well, I really like it if I let it cool and firm up in a brownie pan, cut it into "french fry" shapes, and bake or broil it in an olive oiled pan until it's crispy. It's far less "bland" when there's textural variety (crunchy outside, soft middle) and it can be dunked in a sauce of choice. I recommend you try it again in a different shape. It might make the difference.
The kiddo might like it better if he picks it out, or makes it. You can always stir fry the veggies he chooses (without the soy sauce, of course!) and serve them atop or alongside a baked potato. Pick the seasonings they DO like (garlic, or onion, or whatever it turns out to be) and stir fry them right into the veggies.
When I was a kid, my mom "discovered" cilantro -- it revolutionized our kitchen. Other discoveries like tortillas revolutionized it again and again. She went through a phase where she put a LOT of chopped fresh ginger and cilantro in all her salads, and I didn't love it as a salad and still don't, but now I think those spicy salads are the reason I came to love both ingredients.
The DH has deeper issues... hehe! :) Not a big deal... pretty soon they will be more excited about new things. Just make the transition gradual and I think it'll be ok. Whatever you do, DON'T BLINK! Don't apologize for a new dish, don't assume it will look weird to them and tell them why, don't acknowledge that something is "weird" and ... well, lots of the time they will still go "eeeeww", but at least they won't come to the table with their minds already made up.
Pasta with roasted tomatoes and arugala, panzanella, baked sweet potatoes, stuffed bell peppers, rice pilaf with roasted veggies, and everyone I know will eat a Boca burger because it basically tastes like McDonald's. Bean salads are pretty normal, too. Don't stress, they won't starve.
like my parents always said:
If youre hungry, you'll eat it! ;D
lasagna (spaghetti, ziti and many italian foods), tacos, mexican pizza, alfredo, buffalo tofu or tofu nuggets (my kids have friends over that are not vegan and these are approved so would work in your case i bet), burrito pie, and pot pie. all of these things go over with vegans and omnis. I have some tried and true recipes if you are interested. If you haven't tried good ole TVP please do. It tastes great when seasoned right and surprisingly meaty taste too.
Hi. I don't follow the "they don't like different" reasoning.
If you were an omni mom serving them grilled tuna on a bed of broccoli raab with a side of mango salsa, you'd feel as though you were expanding their culinary horizons. So if you're a vegan mom serving them that same dish with grilled tofu instead of tuna, you shouldn't feel that you are imposing your dietary restrictions.
Inculcating your kids with a love of beans and pulses and legumes is probably one of the greatest health benefits you can give them and they will have it their whole life. Make chickpeas from scratch--be sure to soak them for a long time and rinse the water and cook them slowly until they are extremely soft and then add the salt. Many kids like chickpeas plain (mine do) and I often serve them with pasta. Lots of kids--surprise surprise--like lentils. You can google and find deborah madison's recipe for chickpeas and butterflies and that is usually unobjectionable.
Trish Ross has a whole bunch of bean cookbooks. She is not vegetarian and the books aren't strictly veg either, but many of the recipes are and they might be a good place to start since they were appealing to her own omni family.
wow all these ideas... THANKS!
I need to copy these down and get some ideas going..
also i'm going to (when i get a little more time) check out TVP.
i bought some falafel to try... and I will re-try the polenta in "different shapes" and try baking it like "fries".
Maybe marinara sauce!? ;)
great ideas... thanks... i do appreciate it.
;)b