Posted by isaytomatoes on Oct 16, 2009 · Member since Jun 2009 · 209 posts
Anybody eat these? Can you cook with them? My student brought me a bagful.
Posted by yabbitgirl on Oct 17, 2009 · Member since Apr 2006 · 14266 posts
I think pawpaws and persimmons are the same thing. They make a lovely jam. Or in a fruit-salad type dessert. It's a shame pavlova isn't veg*n.
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Posted by nutdragon on Oct 21, 2009 · Member since Aug 2006 · 807 posts
I recently had my first pawpaw fruit. Apparently they grow locally here (NC mountains), but I had never heard of one. I am by no means an authority, but this is what we did with it:
We just ate it raw. It was very ripe (several large browning spots on the skin) and it was heavenly. Very sweet, kind of melt-in-your-mouth mango-y. I have no idea if you can cook with them, but they were so wonderful raw, I don't think I'd get that far. Plus, it was so soft raw, I'd think it would disintegrate if you cooked it. It also strikes me as a PITA to seed, if you were to cut it up to cook it. We just peeled it, stuck chunks of the fruit in our mouths and the flesh dissolved leaving the seeds. I kept the seeds to see if I could sprout them.
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Posted by yabbitgirl on Oct 23, 2009 · Member since Apr 2006 · 14266 posts
The jam doesn't take the seeds out, that would be like trying to seed a raspberry or a strawberry.
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Posted by isaytomatoes on Oct 23, 2009 · Member since Jun 2009 · 209 posts
but the seeds are *big*!
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Posted by yabbitgirl on Oct 23, 2009 · Member since Apr 2006 · 14266 posts
but the seeds are *big*!
If it's any comfort, leaving the seeds in also helps the jelling process. A lot of traditional plum jam recipes don't contemplate removing the stones, either.
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Posted by nutdragon on Oct 23, 2009 · Member since Aug 2006 · 807 posts
The seeds are really big (think peanut M&M's). The PITA part is that the flesh would kind of disintegrate if you cut them out. Like an over-ripe mango where the flesh just sort of shoots through your fingers when you try to cut it from the seed and the seeds aren't located symmetrically or centrally through out the fruit. I cut off chunks of the flesh and spat out the seeds . I don't think it is any relation to a persimmon.
In case you missed this site http://www.petersonpawpaws.com/Facts.php It says that because the flavors are so volatile, recipes should involve little or no cooking.
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Posted by sproutmuncher on Oct 23, 2009 · Member since Jul 2006 · 16 posts
When my sister and I were in St. Jose in Spain, we walked the beach until we wandered into a cactus fruit "garden"... Two boys we picked up along our way, who were from Germany, had jack knives with them, and we cut the fruit off the cactus and ate them... Very cool. I think they would make great jam, and I think the seeds are big enough that you could strain them out, maybe though cheesecloth.
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Posted by yabbitgirl on Oct 24, 2009 · Member since Apr 2006 · 14266 posts
Once the jam is cooked and ready to bottle, picking the seeds out wouldn't be that big a problem, unless you simply don't want to do it. You could even put the jam through a china cap to strain out the seeds.
I never have seen higo chumbo (prickly pear) jam but that doesn't mean there isn't one. There's a place in my town that makes their own PP icecream. I've never tasted the pears because the guys who sell them on our streets aren't big on hygiene, and they sell them ready-peeled in plastic bags.
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Posted by nutdragon on Oct 24, 2009 · Member since Aug 2006 · 807 posts
At the end of the link above a poster commented about making cookies and freezing the juice with OJ. interesting. "Tired of making cookies. Now, I am peeling them, removing the seeds, putting the flesh in the blender with about a half cup of frozen orange juice concentrate and freezing the puree in pint jars. I’ll add it to oatmeal, breads, pancakes, and other such this winter. According to the Kentucky web site, it is very rich in vitamins and minerals, so don’t want to waste any."
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Posted by yabbitgirl on Oct 24, 2009 · Member since Apr 2006 · 14266 posts
At the end of the link above a poster commented about making cookies and freezing the juice with OJ. interesting. "Tired of making cookies. Now, I am peeling them, removing the seeds, putting the flesh in the blender with about a half cup of frozen orange juice concentrate and freezing the puree in pint jars. I’ll add it to oatmeal, breads, pancakes, and other such this winter. According to the Kentucky web site, it is very rich in vitamins and minerals, so don’t want to waste any."
OH! Pardon me all to pieces, nutdragon. That looks like a smooth-coated chirimoya, and not at all what I was thinking of. If that is a pawpaw, then the best way to process them would be to cut them open, dig out the flesh and pick out the seeds first and then proceed to do whatever, as the "cookie" poster says. Once de-seeded, I should think you could make jam...but you might have to add another fruit to get enough pectin for it to "jell." I don't know...how much pectin's in a paw-paw. (Which sounds like a tongue-twister along the lines of "How much wood would a wood-chuck chuck..." Sorry. I think I have a fever.)
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Posted by mirrya1 on Oct 25, 2009 · Member since Jan 2006 · 2210 posts
I never have seen higo chumbo (prickly pear) jam but that doesn't mean there isn't one.
That's really big here in San Antonio. I personally like to add prickly pear to lemonade.
I think pawpaws and persimmons are the same thing. They make a lovely jam. Or in a fruit-salad type dessert. It's a shame pavlova isn't veg*n.
I recently had my first pawpaw fruit. Apparently they grow locally here (NC mountains), but I had never heard of one. I am by no means an authority, but this is what we did with it:
We just ate it raw. It was very ripe (several large browning spots on the skin) and it was heavenly. Very sweet, kind of melt-in-your-mouth mango-y. I have no idea if you can cook with them, but they were so wonderful raw, I don't think I'd get that far. Plus, it was so soft raw, I'd think it would disintegrate if you cooked it. It also strikes me as a PITA to seed, if you were to cut it up to cook it. We just peeled it, stuck chunks of the fruit in our mouths and the flesh dissolved leaving the seeds. I kept the seeds to see if I could sprout them.
The jam doesn't take the seeds out, that would be like trying to seed a raspberry or a strawberry.
but the seeds are *big*!
but the seeds are *big*!
If it's any comfort, leaving the seeds in also helps the jelling process. A lot of traditional plum jam recipes don't contemplate removing the stones, either.
The seeds are really big (think peanut M&M's). The PITA part is that the flesh would kind of disintegrate if you cut them out. Like an over-ripe mango where the flesh just sort of shoots through your fingers when you try to cut it from the seed and the seeds aren't located symmetrically or centrally through out the fruit. I cut off chunks of the flesh and spat out the seeds . I don't think it is any relation to a persimmon.
In case you missed this site http://www.petersonpawpaws.com/Facts.php It says that because the flavors are so volatile, recipes should involve little or no cooking.
When my sister and I were in St. Jose in Spain, we walked the beach until we wandered into a cactus fruit "garden"... Two boys we picked up along our way, who were from Germany, had jack knives with them, and we cut the fruit off the cactus and ate them... Very cool. I think they would make great jam, and I think the seeds are big enough that you could strain them out, maybe though cheesecloth.
Once the jam is cooked and ready to bottle, picking the seeds out wouldn't be that big a problem, unless you simply don't want to do it. You could even put the jam through a china cap to strain out the seeds.
I never have seen higo chumbo (prickly pear) jam but that doesn't mean there isn't one. There's a place in my town that makes their own PP icecream. I've never tasted the pears because the guys who sell them on our streets aren't big on hygiene, and they sell them ready-peeled in plastic bags.
I think we're all talking about different things. This is my understanding of the paw paw:
http://www.veggiegardeningtips.com/stalking-the-exotic-and-wild-paw-paw-tree/
At the end of the link above a poster commented about making cookies and freezing the juice with OJ. interesting.
"Tired of making cookies. Now, I am peeling them, removing the seeds, putting the flesh in the blender with about a half cup of frozen orange juice concentrate and freezing the puree in pint jars. I’ll add it to oatmeal, breads, pancakes, and other such this winter. According to the Kentucky web site, it is very rich in vitamins and minerals, so don’t want to waste any."
I think we're all talking about different things. This is my understanding of the paw paw:
http://www.veggiegardeningtips.com/stalking-the-exotic-and-wild-paw-paw-tree/
At the end of the link above a poster commented about making cookies and freezing the juice with OJ. interesting.
"Tired of making cookies. Now, I am peeling them, removing the seeds, putting the flesh in the blender with about a half cup of frozen orange juice concentrate and freezing the puree in pint jars. I’ll add it to oatmeal, breads, pancakes, and other such this winter. According to the Kentucky web site, it is very rich in vitamins and minerals, so don’t want to waste any."
OH! Pardon me all to pieces, nutdragon. That looks like a smooth-coated chirimoya, and not at all what I was thinking of. If that is a pawpaw, then the best way to process them would be to cut them open, dig out the flesh and pick out the seeds first and then proceed to do whatever, as the "cookie" poster says. Once de-seeded, I should think you could make jam...but you might have to add another fruit to get enough pectin for it to "jell." I don't know...how much pectin's in a paw-paw. (Which sounds like a tongue-twister along the lines of "How much wood would a wood-chuck chuck..." Sorry. I think I have a fever.)
I never have seen higo chumbo (prickly pear) jam but that doesn't mean there isn't one.
That's really big here in San Antonio. I personally like to add prickly pear to lemonade.