bee movie
Posted by lime green on Aug 01, 2007 · Member since Apr 2007 · 634 posts
so i went to see the simpsons movie, and saw the preview for Bee Movie, with jerry seinfeld. overall it looks pretty crappy, but there's a part in the trailer where the bee sees shelves of honey in the grocery store and freaks out. he's all like "THIS IS STEALING!!!" and i just about squealed i was so happy to hear a cartoon character say something that i have been saying!
That's funny. ;D
Apis mellifera outside of the hive are females. It's dry humor funny to me that they have Barry Bee Benson as the lead bee.
Funny...it looks pretty veg friendly...maybe...
OK. I just saw this movie...and I say >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Warning! The following commentary will ruin the end of the movie. Don't read it if you plan to see the movie! ;)
So, this is just my opinion....
For the first half, I thought..."Hmm, this movie is great. Kinda stupid, but it HAD to have been made by a bunch of vegan hippies." ;) This bee like falls in love with the human who saved him from getting smushed (and he can talk to her). So when he sees all the honey in the grocery store, then later the "honey farm" where they smoke the bees and stuff, she helps him build a case against the honey industry. After he wins the case, the bees get all their honey back (yay! right?) Ok. No. So then the bees stop working b/c they have so much honey and all the flowers die. Of course they eventually got things back to "normal," but I just didn't like it. It felt propaganda-ish to me. Like...if we close all the factory bee farms, all the flowers and produce will die...they never talked about the natural process of bees...you know, the one where the bees pollenate the flowers and make honey all by themselves without the assistance of beekeepers smoking them out???? The message was clear to me. If people stop buying honey, all the flowers will die.
Now, I'm a bit hypocritical. I still occasionally eat honey (only from organic farms...if that makes me any less evil... :-[) but it just pisses me off when I see something that is so obviously propogating misinformation. >:(
Oh, and at the end..they had a cow in the bee office (he's an attorney now) seeing if he could sue the diary industry. They made it a big stupid joke. >:( >:( >:(
Ok. My rant for now.
if i remember right, wasnt' chicken run all about the factory and the chickens not wanting to be "dinner"? is it just me that sees something wrong with making kids films out of that? what kind of message is that "okay, let's watch this funny movie... and get some KFC on the way home!"
Exactly!!! ::) So weird...
Tangent: This isn't really kid-related (or "Bee Movie"-related; and yes, dumb title), but it is actually weirder to me because it's about an adult who (I would think) would make stronger connections between these things. But today my supervisor at work was talking about how a bunch of his friends went deer hunting last weekend & it made him really sad... But then he went on & on about the amazing meat loaf he made with ground sirloin & VEAL last night. Uh... Okay? :-\ :-X
if i remember right, wasnt' chicken run all about the factory and the chickens not wanting to be "dinner"? is it just me that sees something wrong with making kids films out of that? what kind of message is that "okay, let's watch this funny movie... and get some KFC on the way home!"
Exactly!!! ::) So weird...
Tangent: This isn't really kid-related (or "Bee Movie"-related; and yes, dumb title), but it is actually weirder to me because it's about an adult who (I would think) would make stronger connections between these things. But today my supervisor at work was talking about how a bunch of his friends went deer hunting last weekend & it made him really sad... But then he went on & on about the amazing meat loaf he made with ground sirloin & VEAL last night. Uh... Okay? :-\ :-X
Someone at my work did the same thing!! When he found out I was vegan, he went on and on about how he went hunting once and looked into the eyes of the dead creature he shot and couldn't hunt again...but he's telling me this as he snarfs lunch from In 'N Out Burger...seriously? Can you NOT see the connection? ::) >:(
The genderbending in it messes me up that I can't get around it... oh my!
At the risk of being obvious, the title refers to the old B-movies, you know, those horror movies that are so bad they're good, and stuff like that. I particularly like "On Dangerous Ground" with James Mason. TALK about a low point in the man's career...but the script is unintentionally hysterical. In one scene the "gangster's moll" spits the following "dialogue" at Mason who plays the bad-cop-turned-good, in a very machinegun, too-solemn way:
"You're real. cute. Anyone ever tell you you're real. cute? Johnny was real cute, too. That was his problem." And, yes, she meant good-looking, not cute as in "clever, or think you're clever."
OK, aging independent cinema buff retires into her burrow to avoid being pelted with overripe organic comestibles... ;D
I was going to post about this....isn't Jerry Seinfeld a vegetarian? And why does this movie have its head up McDonald's Ass if so? Especially since I heard an NPR interview with him where he said he didn't care about making money. I guess he probably has no control of the marketing, but WTF? I like the guy but that jus seems so hypocritical.
humm... bee movies.... (what animals are NOT in movies by Pixar/disney/etc?)
reading the comments i was thinking about other animals movies that might people rethink things. charlottes web and chicken run come to mind. i don't think people look at these "kids films" under any sort of analytic lens (well, outside those who think about AR in the first place maybe). if i remember right, wasnt' chicken run all about the factory and the chickens not wanting to be "dinner"? is it just me that sees something wrong with making kids films out of that? what kind of message is that "okay, let's watch this funny movie... and get some KFC on the way home!"
garf. off topic some but i wonder. it seems that this "bee movie" (is that what it is called? lame title) is similar to the others and working similar lines.
From a parent of a vegan's point of view, I LOVE these movies because my son and I can relate and discuss things during/afterwards. It does kill me how most kids and parents dont really get the message and eat hotdogs while watching Babe. or fishsticks while watching Nemo.
From a parent of a vegan's point of view, I LOVE these movies because my son and I can relate and discuss things during/afterwards. It does kill me how most kids and parents dont really get the message and eat hotdogs while watching Babe. or fishsticks while watching Nemo.
Not related to Bee Movie, but: Monday night was the Harvest Festival (or whatever, because we can't say Thanksgiving) at my daughter's school. So the kids sang a few songs. Okay, fine. The last song they sang was from the turkey's point of view!!! I can't remember the words, but it just struck me how I was the only person there to look horrified at the premise of a song about how a turkey doesn't like Thanksgiving Day. And having kids sing it!! Really, it wasn't a big thing, but... Well, I guess what bothered me sooo much about it was that this song was from the turkey's perspective, and yet it was ALL JUST A JOKE to everyone, you know? And... I don't know... the whole thing just pissed me off. Now where's that vegan island that was mentioned in another thread?
From a parent of a vegan's point of view, I LOVE these movies because my son and I can relate and discuss things during/afterwards. It does kill me how most kids and parents dont really get the message and eat hotdogs while watching Babe. or fishsticks while watching Nemo.
Not related to Bee Movie, but: Monday night was the Harvest Festival (or whatever, because we can't say Thanksgiving) at my daughter's school. So the kids sang a few songs. Okay, fine. The last song they sang was from the turkey's point of view!!! I can't remember the words, but it just struck me how I was the only person there to look horrified at the premise of a song about how a turkey doesn't like Thanksgiving Day. And having kids sing it!! Really, it wasn't a big thing, but... Well, I guess what bothered me sooo much about it was that this song was from the turkey's perspective, and yet it was ALL JUST A JOKE to everyone, you know? And... I don't know... the whole thing just pissed me off. Now where's that vegan island that was mentioned in another thread?
was it the Shel Silverstein poem maybe from Where the Sidewalk Ends? The good thing about things like this, is that maybe, just maybe, one kid in the group will now perhaps think of things from the turkey's point of view....and not eat it. Personally, I would be happy to sing that song with children (although I don't know exactly what the words are). I have a collection of Thanksgiving books for kids that are for not killing the turkeys and I have read them to my classes-so have other teachers who eat turkey at well. Twas the Night Before Thanksgiving" by Dav Pilkey is great.....I even had them draw eating a meal with the turkey as a guest. When my nephew was younger he saw his mom cleaning the turkey and asked if it was "reaL' as in he couldn't believe it.....food turkey was the same as "bird turkey". They lied to not upset him. Some kids just don't know. Maybe now they will make the connection?
I don't know... something about "gobble gobble". To be honest, I was too shocked by the whole thing to pay much attention to the words. I'll ask my daughter when I pick her up if she can tell them to me. Maybe it'll get some of the kids thinking, but given my location... I doubt it. For example: one of the radio stations here, along with some local businesses, hold an annual "Win a Remodel of your Home" contest. People send in their sob stories, and the biggest whiner wins a renovation. So, last year... wanna guess who the winner was? It was some @$$hole that got paralyzed after he fell off a f**k**g tree stand while out deer hunting. Okay, sorry you're disabled. But... I don't know. Just seemed like they could have found somebody that wasn't out killing animals when things went wrong for them.
I realize that has nothing to do with the kids and their families at my daughter's school. But it's a pretty good example of the mentality around here.
It was some @$$hole that got paralyzed after he fell off a f**k**g tree stand while out deer hunting.
LOL! How does someone fall out of a tree stand? ;D
My dad has a friend who has a hunting ranch and he saw people hunting there when he visited. Apparently the hunting there consists of people sitting in tree stands and throwing bird and deer food on the ground nearby. They just sit there with the gun aimed at the food until deer or birds come to eat it and shoot them point blank. :-X
I was going to post about this....isn't Jerry Seinfeld a vegetarian? And why does this movie have its head up McDonald's Ass if so? Especially since I heard an NPR interview with him where he said he didn't care about making money. I guess he probably has no control of the marketing, but WTF? I like the guy but that jus seems so hypocritical.
Ugh. No kidding... I just "LOL"d. This movie totally DOES have its head up McDonald's ass! Also, I think "Seinfeld" is funny & all, but it he didn't care about money, I doubt he would have demanded $1 million per episode way back when... I mean, if you can get it, cool (I guess), and even better if you'll do good things with it. But personally, I think this "Bee Movie" just reeks of washed-up stars needing a paycheck... :-\ ;D
And I was just going to say that I don't think Jerry is a vegetarian, BUT then I Googled it to be sure & this is what I found:
"Jerry Seinfeld , comedian, an outspoken vegetarian who won't let people eat meat in front of him."
~ http://www.animalliberationfront.com/Saints/Saints-vegs.htm
Hmmm... That's strange because his wife just came out with a "healthy" cookbook, with tips on how to sneak nutritious food into your children's meals without them knowing. ::)
Recipes featured include:
-Italian turkey meatloaf
-Chicken nuggets
-Chicken & cheese quesadillas
Interesting... I wonder if Jerry eats alone in the garage, then? ???
It was some @$$hole that got paralyzed after he fell off a f**k**g tree stand while out deer hunting.
LOL! How does someone fall out of a tree stand? ;D
My dad has a friend who has a hunting ranch and he saw people hunting there when he visited. Apparently the hunting there consists of people sitting in tree stands and throwing bird and deer food on the ground nearby. They just sit there with the gun aimed at the food until deer or birds come to eat it and shoot them point blank. :-X
Yes, hunting is sick. I have no idea how the dumb@$$ accomplished that.
Hmmm... That's strange because his wife just came out with a "healthy" cookbook, with tips on how to sneak nutritious food into your children's meals without them knowing. ::)
Recipes featured include:
-Italian turkey meatloaf
-Chicken nuggets
-Chicken & cheese quesadillas
Interesting... I wonder if Jerry eats alone in the garage, then? ???
Wow I didnt know he was a vegetarian! Thats great, I've always totally liked him too... Its strange how that works out, its happened with a lot of celebrities I like.
I think he had to marry an non-veg*n because all the female veg*ns had already married off to omnis. ::) Damn you girls!
Hmmm... That's strange because his wife just came out with a "healthy" cookbook, with tips on how to sneak nutritious food into your children's meals without them knowing. ::)
Recipes featured include:
-Italian turkey meatloaf
-Chicken nuggets
-Chicken & cheese quesadillas
Interesting... I wonder if Jerry eats alone in the garage, then? ???
;D ;Dthat is hilarious....a good question! I think on NPR he was saying that the producers were trying to give him more money and he was saying he made enough. I can't remember exactly....but it sure doesn't sound right. Maybe he is now one of those "used to be vegetarians".
I don't know... something about "gobble gobble". To be honest, I was too shocked by the whole thing to pay much attention to the words. I'll ask my daughter when I pick her up if she can tell them to me. Maybe it'll get some of the kids thinking, but given my location... I doubt it. For example: one of the radio stations here, along with some local businesses, hold an annual "Win a Remodel of your Home" contest. People send in their sob stories, and the biggest whiner wins a renovation. So, last year... wanna guess who the winner was? It was some @$$hole that got paralyzed after he fell off a f**k**g tree stand while out deer hunting. Okay, sorry you're disabled. But... I don't know. Just seemed like they could have found somebody that wasn't out killing animals when things went wrong for them.
I realize that has nothing to do with the kids and their families at my daughter's school. But it's a pretty good example of the mentality around here.
Tkitty, I teach elementary school music, and I know the song you are talking about. Last year during a class close to Thanksgiving, I was playing all the Thanksgiving themed songs I had from this book (without listening to them first). I didn't like that one at all either. Of course, the kids loved it.
so i went to see the simpsons movie, and saw the preview for Bee Movie, with jerry seinfeld. overall it looks pretty crappy, but there's a part in the trailer where the bee sees shelves of honey in the grocery store and freaks out. he's all like "THIS IS STEALING!!!" and i just about squealed i was so happy to hear a cartoon character say something that i have been saying!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xj86ETbjtQ0
I saw the ad and had the exact same reaction, lime green!
Now I'm so curious to see it.
I agree with Vigilant that the ending did more good than harm. Yes, it implied that humans eating honey will save the world, but it did stress the importance of bees to the ecosystem, as well as treating bees with care and how our first instinct shouldn't be "swat the pests" (I liked when the kid who tried to kill him in the beginning said in the end, "Yay, the bees are back!"), or that if honey is collected, it shouldn't be in the form of those factory hives where they smoke out the bees.
I also liked how Chris Rock's mosquito character became a lawyer. "I'm already a blood-sucking parasite! I just needed the briefcase." ;D