lbarte- i have a question. i was watching 18 kids and counting and they, like you, don't watch tv, wear skirts (well, the girls. lol) don't cut their hair, etc. one thing that i was confused about was that they don't dance. i was really confused, and am still wondering why they don't dance. i don't know if you practice that too, but it seems like you'd know more than i do. lol. do you know why they don't dance?

I don't know their particular religious views, but I grew up Southern Baptist.  In which you didn't drink, women wore skirts, and no dancing were the rules.  Sounds like they to maybe SBC.  If memory serves me right, It's because they think dancing could lead to other things involving a more horizontal position and that most of todays dance moves are WAY to suggestive in nature.

No dancing just seems so foreign to me. I grew up in a Christian home (full gospel, non-denominational) but I was in California where things just aren't as conservative, but am not a Christian myself. Anyway, I can't imagine not being able to dance. Music is wonderful, and dancing is a great form of expression, great exercise and so much fun. To be denied just seems cruel :(

i agree!! dancing doesnt have to be sexual or whatever they see it as. it's just a way to express how you're feeling annnddd it's a beautiful art to watch

I am so happy to see that there are Christian Vegans/Vegetarians really out there!  Where I live it is unheard of.  Actually vegans are unheard of pretty much.  Most people who ask me why I don't eat certain things, and I tell them I'm a vegan, they have no idea what that is.  When I explain it to them, all I get is rude comments, or questions.  I would love to talk to a like-minded person if there's someone else out there looking for someone to talk to who understands them lol.  Thanks for brightening my day everyone! =)

Hi peacekeeper!  Another Christian here!  I would love to keep in touch.  I understand how it is living as a vegan AND Christian and feeling like you must be the only one on the planet.  Rest assured you are not alone.  There is also a Christian vegetarian forum that rocks on Christian Vegetarian Association's website.  Many on that list are vegans.

Even among some vegan groups I have felt shunned and disrespected for my beliefs, such as being prolife in ALL areas.  I have also dealt with the apathy towards nonhuman animals from a lot of Christians who believe only humans have value on this Earth.  Sometimes I feel very much alone out there trying to figure it all out, to live a life with values that so few share.  I stand by my beliefs and convictions, but I am still human and still have a need for acceptance from others.

I see that you are from Ohio?  I lived there for my first 21 years before moving to Minnesota.  I live way up north now where hunting and fishing is a way of life.  Sighs...but I love the beauty of the northwoods here.  I grew up in Columbus.  I dont miss the big city too much but do appreciate that at least in a bigger city vegan options are better.  I have to order everything online now a days to find what I need.  Anyway, glad to see this thread revived!

there is no need for a god.
just sayin.

there is no need for a god.
just sayin.

shut ur trap

i will NOT.

there is no need for a god.
just sayin.

And this contributes to the discussion...how? A flat denial isn't  much in the way of input.

just sayin' god is no longer necessary in our society today.

Maybe not for you.
If that's all you got, that's all you got, I guess...

not necessary for anyone, actually.

(from an atheist's perspective)

All religions are pretty much the same - they're rules for people living successfully in a group together.  Not murdering obnoxious coworkers or continually hitting on a neighbor's spouse makes for a smoother operating society.  It sounds more convincing if a supernatural being made up the rule instead of Joe, so creations myths and fluff were spun around the basic tenants to make the rules seem more authoritative.  

Religion is fine, but the specificity of the fluff goes astray.  For example, God being displeased with a woman who braids her hair is like a CEO who is displeased because an hourly employee got a manicure.  It's unbelievable that an omni-present super-being would care, rather than it being a crabby man pissed at his wife who braided her hair instead of making him a chicken pot pie.

Anyway - Christianity doesn't cover much, such as veganism or the importance of education - that's not its purpose (which is to organize social rules).

Although some fluffy specificity is awesome:
Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their genitals as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions. (Ezekiel 23:19-20)

Sadly, many Christians seem to be very naive and ignorant of anyone else's beliefs. I have come across a few here that are incredibly open, awesome, and accepting but have also seen the darker side of Christianity firsthand. I respect Christians and their beliefs, but a lot of the time someone will look at me as though I've got my dick out and am waving it at their child when I tell them I don't believe in God. Because apparently this means I am not only a monster, but a thief and a pedophile, with a soul made of rotting durian.

i like your thoughts here... like vegans, there are many crazy "christians" who shove their beliefs down others throats... i, as a christian, am not perfect... shit, i'm a hypocrite and everyone is... i am not here to judge or discount your opinions but being christian works for me and makes me extremely fulfilled and happy... so let me be me and i'll let you be you... but be respectful of my opinion, that's all... for me, i know God is there/ here... i feel his presence, i know he exists... do i have proof? no... it's just a leap of faith i am willing to take :)

so LL stop being an ass and trying to get people pissed... i know your tactics homeslice and they don't work on me, so suck it ;)

(from an atheist's perspective)

All religions are pretty much the same - they're rules for people living successfully in a group together.  Not murdering obnoxious coworkers or continually hitting on a neighbor's spouse makes for a smoother operating society.  It sounds more convincing if a supernatural being made up the rule instead of Joe, so creations myths and fluff were spun around the basic tenants to make the rules seem more authoritative. 

Religion is fine, but the specificity of the fluff goes astray.  For example, God being displeased with a woman who braids her hair is like a CEO who is displeased because an hourly employee got a manicure.  It's unbelievable that an omni-present super-being would care, rather than it being a crabby man pissed at his wife who braided her hair instead of making him a chicken pot pie.

Anyway - Christianity doesn't cover much, such as veganism or the importance of education - that's not its purpose (which is to organize social rules).

Although some fluffy specificity is awesome:
Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their genitals as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions. (Ezekiel 23:19-20)

ALL HAIL JOE