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What do you all think about it? I mean in general, your stance on drugs, if you smoke/ reasons you don't, etc. I really don't know what made me think of it, I just would like to know other peoples opinons of it. I was thinking of making it a pole, but I don't know how that would have worked out.

yes, you have been respectful and i haven't felt attacked like i have when i've had this conversation with other people. maybe my views will change, but i know for a fact that i will never drink or do drugs because (like ive mentioned before) addiction runs in my family and i will not put myself at risk of becoming addicted to alcohol and/or drugs.

I did not know about your family connection (I guess you've written this and I've missed it). I think that's totally different, and I respect you for making such responsible choices (as I did before I learned this). But like I've said, not everyone who partakes is an addict. I have no family history of addiction of any kind, so I didn't even think of this connection. I totally see what you're saying.

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I'm sorry if I came across as attacking you personally, vh. I was annoyed by some of Jake's comments to a similar effect, and possibly misdirecting my rant.

I think it's admirable that you have the self-awareness and conscientiousness to know that addiction could be an issue and choosing to be responsible and protect yourself from that danger. *hats off*

(Personally, I'm the sort of numpty who needs to try everything once, even if it gets me into some degree of shit.)

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i used to want to try everything once, like you, but then i really opened my eyes and saw what has happened in my family and it scared me. i never ever want to end up like some of them did. so trying that was not as important as staying healthy.

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I'm scared of not knowing everything. It's childish, I know.

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I thought I would pipe up in this thread again with some interesting recent experiences of mine. I just got back from a trip to Amsterdam for the purpose of a great friend's bachelor party. We went because we're marijuana smokers and we wanted to combine some fun travel with an interesting smoking experience. Sure, while the weekend had the overtone of the "bachelor party" to it, it was still just 4 guys having a good time in a foreign city, nothing too extreme or out of control.

All of that said, having smoked in Canada for a little more than the last decade, and feeling that in general the attitude is fairly open towards it here, I have to say that being in an environment where it is fully legalized was astounding. Of course some of the arguments you hear regarding legalization are incredibly hyperbolic/doom and gloom/whatever, but even when you push those aside there is still concern as to how it will impact society. Well let me tell you, when you're sitting in a coffeeshop in Amsterdam at the end of the work day and a group of people stroll in wearing their work clothes for an after work smoke, you quickly gain some perspective. Instantly I saw legalized smoking in the exact same light as a group of work friends going out for a beer after work, or getting together for some other social activity where alcohol is enjoyed in reasonable quantities and sure, while the goal is intoxication, you're not going overboard.

From this perspective, I find it very difficult to understand why there is resistance to legalization when you have the benefits of:
- controlling and taxing distribution
- eliminating the criminal element
- ensuring a consistent potency / quality
- removing stigmas opening the door to further research and better understanding of the drug

Is burning something and inhaling the smoke bad for you? Of course, otherwise your natural reaction wouldn't be to cough. However, when you compare smoking one joint per day, which is already pretty moderate-high usage, to someone smoking half a pack of cigarettes a day, the amount of "bad stuff" going into the body looks to be lower in the former scenario.

I don't know, I just don't see the negatives outweighing the positives.

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whew.

abandoned this discussion awhile ago, but I see it's kept its livelihood.  that should speak volumes in and of itself.

anyway, just wanted to shout from the rooftops:

ARIZONA passed our medical marijuana legalization proposition!!!  By next April, there'll be 120 dispensaries across the state. We're signing up for our med cards, and exploring how to supply dispensaries.  We're avid  gardeners!

HOORAY!!!!!!

It's about time cannabis is recognized for the miracle plant it is.  It's also time to take our power back from the legal dope dealers who are slowly KILLING us with their poisons.  Woohoo for the medicinal properties of plants and utilizing natural remedies.  Reject harmful  PATRIARCHAL allopathic medical practices, such as overdrugging and symptom suppressing.  Your HMO doesn't want you healthy, they won't get as much money out of you!

Thank you to everyone who refuses to be silenced by fear and has contributed to this discussion.

Tweedle, you're awesome, and I just love everything you've contributed. SOmeone closeto me is all f-ed up on prescriptions, I've seen so many I care about take this poisons and wonder why they don't ever get better, why they always seem to be refilling at the pharm.  F--k drug companies and anyone who turns a profit poisoning others and turning them into the walking dead.

You can go back to sleep now if you choose.  ;)  Thanks for reading!!!  Anyone care to discuss new marijuana laws, I'd welcome your input.

Beyond that, WOOHOO!!!!  The voters have spoken!

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Yes that is really great that more people dealing with painful and debilitating illnesses are now able to use marijuana for its healing properties, its just a shame only a handful of states allow it.  Even if people are against it for I don't  know " moral" issues, but this plant really does help people, especially ones dealing with a terminal illness and simply treating pain. Personally, I would prefer something less physically damaging than opiates for pain relief.

*Modified to add more*

I forgot to mention that I think Moonkeymama is right about her point on the prescription drugs. Some of those things are worse than illegal narcotics, the only difference is than instead of street corners, the dealers are "experts" in white coats. And its so easy to get horribly addicted to these chemicals but I guess people are still in denial about this point of the drug problem in the country.

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Longer_look:  Your comments strike me as being very rude and aggressive. Not nice.  Especially attacking one's personal life.

Oh, some of us do have joy in life, without any drugs at all.  It's true.

I know no one is perfect and people are hypocritical by nature, but dont fucking mock me for the life i live.

can i mock you for this life?
"Companion Animals:  I share a house with three cats named Munch, Merlin, and Momma.
College / University: I will be going to community college next year to save money"

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Longer_look:  Your comments strike me as being very rude and aggressive. Not nice.  Especially attacking one's personal life.

Oh, some of us do have joy in life, without any drugs at all.  It's true.

I know no one is perfect and people are hypocritical by nature, but dont fucking mock me for the life i live.

can i mock you for this life?
"Companion Animals:  I share a house with three cats named Munch, Merlin, and Momma.
College / University: I will be going to community college next year to save money"

this times infinity

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They caught Willie Nelson at the Texas border with 6oz of weed. The sheriff says he could get up to 180 days and would make him cook and clean. So kudos to our federal agents busting that dangerous 77- year old menace to society. Meanwhile, who knows how many guns and hard narcotics pass through unnoticed. ::)

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If you think marijuana should be illegal and you are ok with alcohol being legal, you just haven't done your research.

I've done several college projects on marijuana and it is a hundred times more healthy than alcohol and in some aspects there are medical benefits for you.

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