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What do you all think about it? I mean in general, your stance on drugs, if you smoke/ reasons you don't, etc. I really don't know what made me think of it, I just would like to know other peoples opinons of it. I was thinking of making it a pole, but I don't know how that would have worked out.

In my experience and observations (it wasn't until I was 23 that I started using, I was around others since 14/15 who would smoke around me so I'd observe) marijuana is less noxious compared to alcohol in many ways.....Alcohol is physically addictive. In detox centers, Alcohol detox is given more medical attention than Heroin....Let me just say these are my observations from seeing many addicts go through this and my own when weening myself off the heroin combination....When it comes to societal effects....I have yet to see/hear about an angry/violent marijuana induced episode/incident (paranoia, panic attacks, manic episodes....yes).

To paraphrase what my High school Gov't teacher said concerning this exact topic is "When someone is stoned, they're not going to beat their wife, buyout/clear out a store of all their snack foods, yes. But calling the cops due to a brawl/fight...no."

When it comes to someone detoxing from marijuana, they'll be bitchy and irritable for a few days to a week, with the possibility of a smaller appetite during those times, but they're not going to get the shakes or chills or fever or diarrhea or nausea that is involved with other intoxicants.

In these ways marijuana and alcohol are the same: they are both intoxicants/drugs, viewed as depressants, can slow cognitive and motor skills/reflexes. The above are how I view them as different.

Very awesome points! Yes smoking weed definitely makes u less dangerous than someone drinking... I totally agree with that... I just feel like we shouldn't legalize weed because that would just be another thing that people would have very easy access to and want to intoxicate themselves with... i just think it would be better to not do that

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Who says its not very easy to get pot? One thing, I notice is that if someone is lazy and sits around the house and not do anything with their life when they're stoned, they would be lazy sit around the house and not do anything with their life if they weren't.

I guess what I'm trying to say is there's only so much you can blame a drug like cannabis for someone not wanting to fulfill their potential and I think some people who smoke and people around them like to blame the pot instead of the person who can't seem able to live their life. I don't know if that came out the way I'm trying to describe.

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while I'm not a regular pot smoker by any means, it does have a nice calming affect/effect? (never can remember which one is correct!), so I don't think everyone that smokes it is the typical burnt out lazy person eating potato chips on the couch.  I have alot of nervous energy, and would rather calm down this way than with pills such as xanax or valium.  Prescription pills is a whole other topic, but imo a far worse problem in our country.

Yes, the calming is a good thing about it. And the pain management....I really want to touch on this because I wake up in agony and sometimes I cannot hold my head up because of the pain. I cannot go to a doctor, because I don't have money even for gas, so I do what works.

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Ledzep, do you grow your own?

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I cannot go to a doctor, because I don't have money even for gas, so I do what works.

Are you paying for the drugs?

eta: posted at same time as courth/sis

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I have to make the half ounce last as long as humanly possible so every maybe two/ three months if I include hanging out with friends. So that breaks down to $20 a month for that...and I don't want prescription pain meds.

And no I don't grow my own. If I ever got caught.... I cannot even imagine serving a prison term for weed for my own personal use. But I would like to if I didn't have to worry about the cops/ it being illegal/ jail time/ wasting the time I'm putting into school now....but those things aside I would like to for my own personal use.

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Yes, the calming is a good thing about it. And the pain management....I really want to touch on this because I wake up in agony and sometimes I cannot hold my head up because of the pain. I cannot go to a doctor, because I don't have money even for gas, so I do what works.

If you're that broke, you qualify for government health.

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I didn't mean to imply that everyone who smokes is lazy and good for nothing. I was just saying, that in my experience, those who I know that smoke regularly, haven't moved anywhere in their lives since the day they started. I don't know, I don't really know a lot of people who are happy and outgoing that do it, but then again, maybe I don't know happy, successful people well enough.
Maybe it's just my old friends that suck. Or rural Wisconsin.

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Yes, the calming is a good thing about it. And the pain management....I really want to touch on this because I wake up in agony and sometimes I cannot hold my head up because of the pain. I cannot go to a doctor, because I don't have money even for gas, so I do what works.

If you're that broke, you qualify for government health.

Yes!  If you are having to choose that over food, you need to find some assistance.  Also, no health insurance through school?

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Yes, the calming is a good thing about it. And the pain management....I really want to touch on this because I wake up in agony and sometimes I cannot hold my head up because of the pain. I cannot go to a doctor, because I don't have money even for gas, so I do what works.

If you're that broke, you qualify for government health.

I really don't know much about it. I just quit my job that I hated but got health insurance thru because I couldn't keep up with my school work and school matters more than anything in the world. Learning how to not have money/ be broke and ask my dad for money....already looking for a second job even though I know my school work will suffer again.....

No health insurance through school. I hate not having as much money as I used to. I'm talking like a month, its not like ongoing or anything. And I have pride issues..having to get help for something I feel like I should be doing on my own...I'll just say I'm a Cancer and money matters a lot to me.

And shea I didn't mean to make you defend your statements. I sort of understood what you were getting at.

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It sounds like you need to do some more investigating into health care options. Save that money that you're spending on an illegal substance! (it is currently illegal, no matter what your stance is)
Have you had your pain diagnosed?
To me, it doesn't sound like spending your money on pot is the best bet. Also, from my experience, you'll probably be able to focus more on school without it.

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ummm.....I don't know if other states are affected the same as Oregon....but Medicaid has been closed to all non-senior adults who are not on federal disability for over 4 years. So even if you're poor, you can't get insurance.

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I think it should be fully legalized to anyone 18 and older.

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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY bh!!!

Are you 'back'??????

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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY bh!!!

Are you 'back'??????

For this issue..with the state of California..

yes

:)

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To me, it doesn't sound like spending your money on pot is the best bet. Also, from my experience, you'll probably be able to focus more on school without it.

well said i feel the same... i think everyone is better off keeping their head out of the clouds

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To me, it doesn't sound like spending your money on pot is the best bet. Also, from my experience, you'll probably be able to focus more on school without it.

well said i feel the same... i think everyone is better off keeping their head out of the clouds

Weird, I've heard that doing it before a big test helps people get better test scores.
But I've only heard this and cannot back it up in any way. ::)

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[quote author=Charbot Kimzoid
Weird, I've heard that doing it before a big test helps people get better test scores.
But I've only heard this and cannot back it up in any way. ::)

No way... maybe for a select few... i used to smoke back in the day and it def didn't help with my concentration, school work, etc... there was no way i could focus on schoolwork/ test taking while being high... that was the last thing i could think about

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No health insurance through school. I hate not having as much money as I used to. I'm talking like a month, its not like ongoing or anything. And I have pride issues..having to get help for something I feel like I should be doing on my own...I'll just say I'm a Cancer and money matters a lot to me.

It's a pride issue if you plan to be on it forever.  It's a practicality issue to be on it during college.

When I was in college I had to have surgery on my neck.  I didn't have insurance.  I signed up for MediCal (California's public health care) and had the surgery.  I didn't feel bad.  I was in college.  My goal was to graduate (I did) and get a job (I did) and now I'll be paying back into the MediCal system through my taxes for the rest of my working life.

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[quote author=Charbot Kimzoid
Weird, I've heard that doing it before a big test helps people get better test scores.
But I've only heard this and cannot back it up in any way. ::)

No way... maybe for a select few... i used to smoke back in the day and it def didn't help with my concentration, school work, etc... there was no way i could focus on schoolwork/ test taking while being high... that was the last thing i could think about

I have a friend who got test anxiety and would drink before an exam.  She was smart like kmk and would reliably have 100% on everything while the rest of us were hoping the curve would save our grades.

That's an alcohol example, not a pot example, tho'.

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