Posted by Sariea on Nov 18, 2007 · Member since Feb 2007 · 845 posts
if you make a vegetarian stuffing, but cook it inside a turkey, is it still vegetarian?
im thinking no
weird things go through my head at strange times
Posted by little2ant on Nov 18, 2007 · Member since Aug 2004 · 3055 posts
no...it will get all the turkey juices mixed in and gets all musy. even as a kid I hated the stuffing INSide the turkey. my mom always made a separate dish with it out of the turkey. i was just looking up veg-stuffing recipes. I will be making some soon! YUM!
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Posted by Fee on Nov 18, 2007 · Member since Aug 2007 · 499 posts
My roommate actually made the best stuffing I had the other night. We were celebrating fakesgiving with all vegan foods, so she modified her mom's recipe a bit. It was just toasted bread, sauteed onions, and about a pound of earth balance with some "secret" spices. That drove me crazy. I want the damn spices!
But yeah, that's why they put the stuffing in the turkey, so that the juices of the turkey add flavor. NOT how we roll in my neck of the woods, though
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Posted by closeyoureyestosee on Nov 18, 2007 · Member since Jan 2007 · 1218 posts
Yeah, I'm all set with anything that's been inside a turkey. :P
I've always made separate stuffing in an oven safe bowl covered in aluminum foil or a regular cover. Mmmm... My grandma is making me vegan stuffing! She's so sweet! I had to tell her over the phone "Ok, go into the health food store and ask for VEGAN bread crumbs and EARTH BALANCE." She's like "ok, I'll go tomorrow!" :)
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Posted by Sariea on Nov 18, 2007 · Member since Feb 2007 · 845 posts
Yeah, I'm all set with anything that's been inside a turkey. :P
I've always made separate stuffing in an oven safe bowl covered in aluminum foil or a regular cover. Mmmm... My grandma is making me vegan stuffing! She's so sweet! I had to tell her over the phone "Ok, go into the health food store and ask for VEGAN bread crumbs and EARTH BALANCE." She's like "ok, I'll go tomorrow!" :)
aw thats sweet :)
its just my first thanksgiving since conciously becoming vegetarian. i always liked the stuffing inside the turkey cuz it was moist. but the stuff baked in the oven is just as good.
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Posted by yabbitgirl on Nov 19, 2007 · Member since Apr 2006 · 14266 posts
My roommate actually made the best stuffing I had the other night. We were celebrating fakesgiving with all vegan foods, so she modified her mom's recipe a bit. It was just toasted bread, sauteed onions, and about a pound of earth balance with some "secret" spices. That drove me crazy. I want the d**n spices!
The secret spices are probably parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme. Me, I'd add some garlic, but that's me. Sage is what gives it that "holiday" taste.
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Posted by Duckalucky on Nov 19, 2007 · Member since Aug 2006 · 1127 posts
On top of the ick factor, it's super, super unsafe to cook stuffing inside a carcass. It has a huge risk of salmonella. I'd say no to eating anything that fell out of a bird.
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Posted by notquitevegan on Nov 19, 2007 · Member since Sep 2007 · 202 posts
The secret spices are probably parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme. Me, I'd add some garlic, but that's me. Sage is what gives it that "holiday" taste.
You remind me of one of my favorite songs; Sarborough Fair. :)
oops, I meant Scarborough Fair.
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Posted by Tkitty96 on Nov 19, 2007 · Member since May 2006 · 1789 posts
On top of the ick factor, it's super, super unsafe to cook stuffing inside a carcass. It has a huge risk of salmonella. I'd say no to eating anything that fell out of a bird.
Yeah. Anything inside a dead body is just nasty, and seriously -not vegan (or vegetarian)- . If you like dressing extra moist, just add a little extra veggie broth, and then cover the baking dish with foil for most of the baking time.
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Posted by yabbitgirl on Nov 19, 2007 · Member since Apr 2006 · 14266 posts
The secret spices are probably parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme. Me, I'd add some garlic, but that's me. Sage is what gives it that "holiday" taste.
You remind me of one of my favorite songs; Sarborough Fair. :)
oops, I meant Scarborough Fair.
Yeah, well...there's a reason they immortalised that particular combination of herbs in a folksong...kind of a Mideval memnotic.
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Posted by biodancer on Nov 19, 2007 · Member since Jul 2007 · 978 posts
I'd say no to eating anything that fell out of a bird.
Posted by sharway on Nov 20, 2007 · Member since Mar 2002 · 1314 posts
My mom does a crazy T'giving with lots of vegetarian dishes for my and my husband (and my little sis now!), and she never has enough bowls/dishes by the time she gets to the vegetarian stuffing. So she just makes a foil packet and cooks it in that. If it's too wet when dinner time rolls around, you can just vent it and let some of that veggie broth cook out and let the bread crisp up a bit. All the meat eaters are constantly dipping into the vegetarian stuffing because it's just to die for. My mom makes the BESSSSSTTTT stuffing.
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Posted by yabbitgirl on Nov 20, 2007 · Member since Apr 2006 · 14266 posts
In the days when I was cheif carcass-stuffer at home for the holidays, I always made WAY too much stuffing, and would bake the extra in a casserole dish that had been well---oh, alright, margarined. (We never used butter anyway. I still use the word "butter" to mean margarine because I was 12 before I ever saw real butter.) The casserole dish of stuffing always tasted better to me than the part that came out of the bird.
In France they never stuff birds anyway, except with herbs, to get rid of the--well, the "dead animal" taste.
If your stuffing is well-seasoned, it'll probably taste fantastic just baked.
Note to self: write out and post that wicked brown-rice-mushroom-and-truffle recipe.
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Posted by sharway on Nov 20, 2007 · Member since Mar 2002 · 1314 posts
I realize it's not veg*n, but since when is it dangerous? The turkey needs to get up to 180 degrees, the stuffing only up to 165. Since you are already taking the temperature of the meat, it's not like it's difficult to gauge the stuffing as well if you are that worried. But everyone and their grandma cooks stuffing inside the turkey without issue.
On top of the ick factor, it's super, super unsafe to cook stuffing inside a carcass. It has a huge risk of salmonella. I'd say no to eating anything that fell out of a bird.
From the Food Scientist himself (excerpt from a Food Network Chat, 11/20/01) Alton Brown: Okay, here I go again. Stuffing increases mass. Mass extends cooking time. By the time enough heat gets into the stuffing to cook it and render it safe, the turkey, or a good portion of it, will be overcooked. You want to cook a turkey as fast as you can to minimize juice loss, and the fastest way is without stuffing it. So make stuffing, save your drippings, and stuff it in something else to cook it. Just don't cook it in the turkey. You could cook the stuffing separately and put it in the turkey after the turkey is cooked, or you can definitely take the bird out of the oven and put the stuffing in then. But don't add too much salt to the stuffing, because there will be a good deal of salt coming out a brined turkey, and the drippings will be on the salty side. So take the turkey out of the roasting pan, toss your dressing in the drippings, stuff it in the turkey while it rests, and then take it to the table. Stuffing is only evil when it's stuffing. If it's dressing, it's fine.
Me (sharway again, not AB), I'm glad I don't have to worry about this kind of business!
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Posted by dinkfeet on Nov 20, 2007 · Member since Aug 2007 · 695 posts
But everyone and their grandma cooks stuffing inside the turkey without issue.
Brilliant! ;D ;D
From the Food Scientist himself (excerpt from a Food Network Chat, 11/20/01) Alton Brown: .....stuff it in something else to cook it.
no...it will get all the turkey juices mixed in and gets all musy. even as a kid I hated the stuffing INSide the turkey. my mom always made a separate dish with it out of the turkey. i was just looking up veg-stuffing recipes. I will be making some soon! YUM!
My roommate actually made the best stuffing I had the other night. We were celebrating fakesgiving with all vegan foods, so she modified her mom's recipe a bit. It was just toasted bread, sauteed onions, and about a pound of earth balance with some "secret" spices. That drove me crazy. I want the damn spices!
But yeah, that's why they put the stuffing in the turkey, so that the juices of the turkey add flavor. NOT how we roll in my neck of the woods, though
Yeah, I'm all set with anything that's been inside a turkey. :P
I've always made separate stuffing in an oven safe bowl covered in aluminum foil or a regular cover. Mmmm... My grandma is making me vegan stuffing! She's so sweet! I had to tell her over the phone "Ok, go into the health food store and ask for VEGAN bread crumbs and EARTH BALANCE." She's like "ok, I'll go tomorrow!" :)
Yeah, I'm all set with anything that's been inside a turkey. :P
I've always made separate stuffing in an oven safe bowl covered in aluminum foil or a regular cover. Mmmm... My grandma is making me vegan stuffing! She's so sweet! I had to tell her over the phone "Ok, go into the health food store and ask for VEGAN bread crumbs and EARTH BALANCE." She's like "ok, I'll go tomorrow!" :)
aw thats sweet :)
its just my first thanksgiving since conciously becoming vegetarian. i always liked the stuffing inside the turkey cuz it was moist. but the stuff baked in the oven is just as good.
My roommate actually made the best stuffing I had the other night. We were celebrating fakesgiving with all vegan foods, so she modified her mom's recipe a bit. It was just toasted bread, sauteed onions, and about a pound of earth balance with some "secret" spices. That drove me crazy. I want the d**n spices!
The secret spices are probably parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme. Me, I'd add some garlic, but that's me.
Sage is what gives it that "holiday" taste.
On top of the ick factor, it's super, super unsafe to cook stuffing inside a carcass. It has a huge risk of salmonella. I'd say no to eating anything that fell out of a bird.
The secret spices are probably parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme. Me, I'd add some garlic, but that's me.
Sage is what gives it that "holiday" taste.
You remind me of one of my favorite songs; Sarborough Fair. :)
oops, I meant Scarborough Fair.
On top of the ick factor, it's super, super unsafe to cook stuffing inside a carcass. It has a huge risk of salmonella. I'd say no to eating anything that fell out of a bird.
Yeah. Anything inside a dead body is just nasty, and seriously -not vegan (or vegetarian)- . If you like dressing extra moist, just add a little extra veggie broth, and then cover the baking dish with foil for most of the baking time.
The secret spices are probably parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme. Me, I'd add some garlic, but that's me.
Sage is what gives it that "holiday" taste.
You remind me of one of my favorite songs; Sarborough Fair. :)
oops, I meant Scarborough Fair.
Yeah, well...there's a reason they immortalised that particular combination of herbs in a folksong...kind of a Mideval memnotic.
I'd say no to eating anything that fell out of a bird.
That's "sage" advice. ;D ;D Ahh, it's monday, forgive me.
I'd say no to eating anything that fell out of a bird.
That's "sage" advice. ;D ;D Ahh, it's monday, forgive me.
;D ;D Good one!
My mom does a crazy T'giving with lots of vegetarian dishes for my and my husband (and my little sis now!), and she never has enough bowls/dishes by the time she gets to the vegetarian stuffing. So she just makes a foil packet and cooks it in that. If it's too wet when dinner time rolls around, you can just vent it and let some of that veggie broth cook out and let the bread crisp up a bit. All the meat eaters are constantly dipping into the vegetarian stuffing because it's just to die for. My mom makes the BESSSSSTTTT stuffing.
In the days when I was cheif carcass-stuffer at home for the holidays, I always made WAY too much stuffing, and would bake the extra in a casserole dish that had been well---oh, alright, margarined. (We never used butter anyway. I still use the word "butter" to mean margarine because I was 12 before I ever saw real butter.) The casserole dish of stuffing always tasted better to me than the part that came out of the bird.
In France they never stuff birds anyway, except with herbs, to get rid of the--well, the "dead animal" taste.
If your stuffing is well-seasoned, it'll probably taste fantastic just baked.
Note to self: write out and post that wicked brown-rice-mushroom-and-truffle recipe.
I realize it's not veg*n, but since when is it dangerous? The turkey needs to get up to 180 degrees, the stuffing only up to 165. Since you are already taking the temperature of the meat, it's not like it's difficult to gauge the stuffing as well if you are that worried. But everyone and their grandma cooks stuffing inside the turkey without issue.
On top of the ick factor, it's super, super unsafe to cook stuffing inside a carcass. It has a huge risk of salmonella. I'd say no to eating anything that fell out of a bird.
From the Food Scientist himself (excerpt from a Food Network Chat, 11/20/01)
Alton Brown: Okay, here I go again. Stuffing increases mass. Mass extends cooking time. By the time enough heat gets into the stuffing to cook it and render it safe, the turkey, or a good portion of it, will be overcooked. You want to cook a turkey as fast as you can to minimize juice loss, and the fastest way is without stuffing it. So make stuffing, save your drippings, and stuff it in something else to cook it. Just don't cook it in the turkey. You could cook the stuffing separately and put it in the turkey after the turkey is cooked, or you can definitely take the bird out of the oven and put the stuffing in then. But don't add too much salt to the stuffing, because there will be a good deal of salt coming out a brined turkey, and the drippings will be on the salty side. So take the turkey out of the roasting pan, toss your dressing in the drippings, stuff it in the turkey while it rests, and then take it to the table. Stuffing is only evil when it's stuffing. If it's dressing, it's fine.
Me (sharway again, not AB), I'm glad I don't have to worry about this kind of business!
But everyone and their grandma cooks stuffing inside the turkey without issue.
Brilliant! ;D ;D
From the Food Scientist himself (excerpt from a Food Network Chat, 11/20/01)
Alton Brown: .....stuff it in something else to cook it.
Like a tofurkey! Duh!