The Vegetarian Myth...new book. GRRRRRR
Posted by little2ant on Oct 07, 2009 · Member since Aug 2004 · 3055 posts
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/UndergroundWellness/2009/10/08/The-Vegetarian-Myth-with-Lierre-Keith
This came across my facebook. It is so infuriating. Another one of those "I was vegan for 20 years and got so sick...blah blah blah"
You can listen to an interview with the author on this site.
So this guy on my FB who has his own radio show was the one who posted this and he was just so excited about it and seemed so relieved to be able to blame vegetarianism on the destruction of the earth. I wrote some comments and as usual (on his page) got all kinds of crap from people. One guy asked how I knew I was healthy and that I should really go get a bunch of blood work done and stuff to make sure....he was serious! I unfriended the radio guy simply because I didn't feel like getting all of the emails in response to my post. He does post some good stuff on occasion, but I just wasn't in the mood. He sent me this huge email about how I am so closed minded and he couldn't believe I unfriended him over this, blah blah blah. I am sure he is having a hay day (hey day?) on his page about me now! I've never even met the guy.
I might actually read the book. Its sort of insulting to assume that we vegans don't realize that agriculture is destructive. I buy local when I can. He thinks I should buy grass fed beef if I agree that they should be fed a natural diet.
ehhhh I need to move on. This incident consumed my day and I really don't like focusing on negative things!
You took the words right out of my mouth.
It must have been while you we kissing me.
Wait.
What?
(P.S. - it feels so strangely blasphemous to quote MeatLoaf at someone with a Bad Religion avatar)
Guy on guy is hawt. Please kiss.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
It must have been while you we kissing me.
Wait.
What?
(P.S. - it feels so strangely blasphemous to quote MeatLoaf at someone with a Bad Religion avatar)
Guy on guy is hawt. Please kiss.
The thing I love about us planet-destroying deluded hippie-hypocrites is how we can't even have a good fight without some free love. XD
Let's get secondbase in here and make it a three way kiss.
Let's get secondbase in here and make it a three way kiss.
HOt! I am getting a little moist down below!
Cams, Tweety? Let's make this happen.
CALLING ALL DUDE VEGWEBBERS.
Another day, another all dude make-out session...
*awaits dude on dude action*
my two main problems with the book were 1. she doesn't acknowledge that just because she got sick on a vegetarian diet, others would be incapable of staying healthy on one. i am of the belief that a vegetarian diet is not for everyone, plain and simple. 2. she advocates basically having your own farm as a solution to the environmental problems that vegetarians hope to alleviate. while i am all for locally grown food and sustainable agriculture, i hope she doesn't honestly expect people to be able to raise cows, chickens, etc. on their own.
whatever her intent in writing the book, it ends up being fodder for the anti-vegetarian fire as people who aren't vegetarians can use it to go "see, see, even she said it's not good and she used to be one of you!"
Another day, another all dude make-out session...
I'm down with that! w00t
really...if some goes from a vegan diet back to a non-vegan diet, they just really were not passionate about their lifestyle. I'm reminded of the short news story "the sexiest vegetarian alive over 50" that Tess posted on fb. umm hello, the lady is 70 and has been Vegan since she was 30 and looks and feels incredible not to mention is totally healthy...grrrr is right.
I saw that. She is drop dead gorgeous and looks not a day over 40 and she's 70!
I can't imagine that the writer of this book followed a healthy diet that included a wide variety of vegan food and had those symptoms. Although, I have to stay away from the "what did you eat today" threads, because many vegans are not eating healthy diets with variety or even adequate calories. VebWeb isn't as bad as some folks on another board, we pretty much rock at nutrition here. Whole grains, legumes, fruits, veggies, nuts and healthy fats from a variety of sources makes for healthy longevity. That's a fact. :)
Ditto, Tweety! What you said.
People sometimes are inclined genetically to be sick in the future, I think. She may have gotten this spinal illness or whatever it was no matter what her diet.
I know people who take these isolated cases (my friend who knows a vegan with man boobs) and make a case for the whole world on it. What about the millions and millions of people suffering from disease who are on a meat eating diet?
What about the millions and millions of people suffering from disease who are on a meat eating diet?
They're too busy living in denial. You can't be unhealthy and eat meat, meat is good for you!
I just find it odd that there is a market for such a book. Like, do people really get ANGRY that other people are veg? Enough to buy a book about it? They perhaps need a new hobby. I'd like to see what this lady ate regularly. I don't eat the healthiest diet, I'm on my feet all day at work, and yet I still find it in me to, um, walk around and stuff.
I just find it odd that there is a market for such a book. Like, do people really get ANGRY that other people are veg? Enough to buy a book about it? They perhaps need a new hobby. I'd like to see what this lady ate regularly. I don't eat the healthiest diet, I'm on my feet all day at work, and yet I still find it in me to, um, walk around and stuff.
This made me laugh so hard. It is really disappointing and...oh, for lack of a better word... confusing, that people become hostile when they find out you don't eat meat. Especially if you even DARE begin to communicate(even just a tiny friendly rant) the reasons why you don't. It's like you've just insulted their grandmother or something. Then, they assume you're some kind of elitist and sneer at you every time you participate in discussions.
(Maybe I work with assholes) 8-)
(Maybe they are only jealous)
(Maybe this lady isn't being totally honest. She's probably fake, who's book was ghostwritten by someone with meat industry interests.)
Just imagine how surprised all those healthy long-lived folks in the China Study are going to be, when they read this book and find they've been eating all wrong for the last 110 years... oh well, too bad it wasn't published sooner.
;D
Stupid people are funny... if they just weren't so dangerous. Corporate agriculture as it's currently done IS a problem (Harvest for Hope and The End of Food sum it up nicely, if you're looking for a GOOD read!), which is why buying local/ buying from small-scale organic farmers is important. But animal-agribusiness is another PART of corporate agriculture; and it uses like 10 times the resources for the same amount of food production... so-- let me get this straight-- her argument is that corporate farming of plants is bad, but factory farming for meat production somehow is not? what an, er, interesting line of, er, reasoning.
(Sometimes... I'm embarrassed for my species. I hope none of the other creatures hear about this book-- I'll never be able to hold my head up in the woods again if they do...)
The Omnivore's Dilemma is also a great explanation of why we've(America) got it all wrong.
Yes, indeed, definitely! I actually recommended that one too, on a different thread, earlier tonight...
Also, if someone wanted to look at the health effects of a vegan diet, they could check out recommendations from the American Heart Association; the American Diabetes Association; the joint position paper on vegetarianism from the Canadian and American Societies of Clinical Nutrition; the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine; etc. etc. etc.!
The "Myth" book will probably do very well, because apparently we (as a society) don't care about actual fact-based reality... as long as you say stuff really loud, it's just as good, right? ESPECIALLY if it's what you want to/ have already decided to think, anyway.
(Sigh!)
The "Myth" book will probably do very well, because apparently we (as a society) don't care about actual fact-based reality... as long as you say stuff really loud, it's just as good, right? ESPECIALLY if it's what you want to/ have already decided to think, anyway.
(Sigh!)
double sigh.
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