Is it hypocritical for a vegan to own a leather handbag?
Posted by rediscoverlife81 on Mar 24, 2009 · Member since Feb 2009 · 101 posts
let's say they are a fairly new vegan, they bought this leather bag from a vintage place (so, it's not directly benefiting the people who made it)
would it be hypocritical for them to keep it, but not wear it?
Good point about the car.
Personally, I took it slow rather than give up everything as once. As household and toiletry items finished up I bought vegan ones. When I needed a new belt, I bought a vegan one. I now buy only vegan shoes. I buy vegan candles. I stay away from supplements and vitamins that have gelatin capsules. I still have a leather Lazy Boy in my house that my ex-spouse bought 8 years ago. I know know the cruelties of leather, but I love that chair. When it wears out I will by a synthetic one.
Good point with everything!
I buy as much as I can vegan, like soaps, toothpaste, etc. I buy the cheapest toilet paper, so I know its probably not vegan... but I don't really have the money to be perfect right now...
I also got a car from my g-parents to use during college... it has leather seats. I hated it at first, but a friend explained that I didn't buy it and I was also given it... otherwise, I'd have no car at all... and I'm giving it back in little over a month..
I also don't buy organic produce. I work at a market stand and get food from there for free, so I don't complain.
We all do what we do.
I'm really sorry people are being so rude to you. They think it is okay to attack you for being vegan and having a leather bag, and yet they don't attack people who still eat meat? There are plenty of non-veg people on vegweb, but everyone seems okay with them. That is what's hypocritical.
My point is, from what I can tell, people are not usually assholes like this, and my advice is do whatever the fuck you want because at least you are making a difference.
thanks so much :)
I'm really sorry people are being so rude to you. They think it is okay to attack you for being vegan and having a leather bag, and yet they don't attack people who still eat meat? There are plenty of non-veg people on vegweb, but everyone seems okay with them. That is what's hypocritical.
My point is, from what I can tell, people are not usually assholes like this, and my advice is do whatever the fuck you want because at least you are making a difference.
thanks so much :)
do you really think people were being assholes to you? all anyone did was answer the question you posted & no one personally attacked you. they just gave their opinions, which you asked for. i think it's more offensive to act as if we are being rude when all we are doing is answering the question you asked. no one called you out as a bad person or said you weren't welcome here because of this purse issue.
i think it's more offensive to act as if we are being rude when all we are doing is answering the question you asked. no one called you out as a bad person or said you weren't welcome here because of this purse issue.
Seriously. Don't post the question "Is this hypocritical" if you are not prepared to hear both responses. If you are looking for blind validation of your choice, don't bother. You won't get it.
Really, I hate bullshit like this. No one was being rude or an asshole to anyone. There are tons of helpful responses here--people sharing their personal experiences and perceptions. No one has a right to march in here and call anyone an asshole. Get off your "vegans are big old judgmental meanies" high horse. Spare the rest of us the theatrics.
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/3/23/superiorkitteh128507876619062500.jpg
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/3/23/superiorkitteh128507876619062500.jpg
The only reason I'm posting in this thread is to give AC a ;)b and a :-D.
That's it.
I printed that picture.
+1
I'm really sorry people are being so rude to you. They think it is okay to attack you for being vegan and having a leather bag, and yet they don't attack people who still eat meat? There are plenty of non-veg people on vegweb, but everyone seems okay with them. That is what's hypocritical.
My point is, from what I can tell, people are not usually assholes like this, and my advice is do whatever the fuck you want because at least you are making a difference.
Damn, you're throwing around an awful lot of judgements...judging entire vegweb on probably just a couple of people. Whatever.
Good point about the car.
Personally, I took it slow rather than give up everything as once. As household and toiletry items finished up I bought vegan ones. When I needed a new belt, I bought a vegan one. I now buy only vegan shoes. I buy vegan candles. I stay away from supplements and vitamins that have gelatin capsules. I still have a leather Lazy Boy in my house that my ex-spouse bought 8 years ago. I know know the cruelties of leather, but I love that chair. When it wears out I will by a synthetic one.
Good point with everything!
I buy as much as I can vegan, like soaps, toothpaste, etc. I buy the cheapest toilet paper, so I know its probably not vegan... but I don't really have the money to be perfect right now...
I also got a car from my g-parents to use during college... it has leather seats. I hated it at first, but a friend explained that I didn't buy it and I was also given it... otherwise, I'd have no car at all... and I'm giving it back in little over a month..
I also don't buy organic produce. I work at a market stand and get food from there for free, so I don't complain.
We all do what we do.
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Agree we all do what we can do and it all helps........from the meat eater who adds one meatless meal a week to the pure and holy vegan.
I'm not trying to sound like a moron, but would it be bad of me to keep the bag and not wear it? I got it pre-vegan and I really like color. I know I will have to give it away, eventually. But, if I keep it in the back of my closet, is it hypocritical?
I don't think there's any need to waste it if you really like it, but if you're vegan for the lifestyle and animals I wouldn't suggest you wear it.
Rory Freedman, the Skinny Bitch lady, addressed this sort of thing in her column in VegNews recently. Her take was that "people who are insecure with their own moral standards will be looking for flaws in yours." So the message you send to others "I'm vegan but wear leather things I had pre-vegan" isn't a good message to portray. Meat eaters are going to be quick to point out your hippocrisy especially if they don't know that you had it pre-vegan days.
Treat yourself to a nice alternative one, or ask for one next birthday or xmas.
(I vote that the pictures were overkill and unnecessary when the poster was being sincere in her question and is already a vegan.)
thanks. I'm going to try to shop from vegan online stores once I get more money.
I'm really sorry people are being so rude to you. They think it is okay to attack you for being vegan and having a leather bag, and yet they don't attack people who still eat meat? There are plenty of non-veg people on vegweb, but everyone seems okay with them. That is what's hypocritical.
My point is, from what I can tell, people are not usually assholes like this, and my advice is do whatever the fuck you want because at least you are making a difference.
thanks so much :)
do you really think people were being assholes to you? all anyone did was answer the question you posted & no one personally attacked you. they just gave their opinions, which you asked for. i think it's more offensive to act as if we are being rude when all we are doing is answering the question you asked. no one called you out as a bad person or said you weren't welcome here because of this purse issue.
I don't think anyone insulted me. In fact, this is one of the nicest forums I have ever been on. You all give lots of great advice, which I always appreciate.
I was thanking her because she said I should do whatever the f*** I want. I think I'm going to keep the handbag for at least another month because it has a little bit of a story with it. But after a month, I will give it to Goodwill.
k, thanks for clearing that up. we don't want you to leave!
:)
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/3/23/superiorkitteh128507876619062500.jpg
I was showing the picture to my friend and realized that the cat looks like shelliod's Gary! (Except for that the black nose spot is on the other side.)
http://vegweb.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=19883;type=avatar
I printed that picture.
+1
Hanging right next to that picture I made for you, right?
8-) :-*
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/3/23/superiorkitteh128507876619062500.jpg
I was showing the picture to my friend and realized that the cat looks like shelliod's Gary! (Except for that the black nose spot is on the other side.)
http://vegweb.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=19883;type=avatar
A fact which only makes the picture even cooler. 8-) Good spotting, so to speak.
OMFG that's so so so funny! that totally made me laugh, well done hh!
and gary is much much fatter
I printed that picture.
+1
Hanging right next to that picture I made for you, right?
8-) :-*
That picture is on my wall at work. It's the first thing you see when entering my office.
I printed that picture.
+1
Hanging right next to that picture I made for you, right?
8-) :-*
That picture is on my wall at work. It's the first thing you see when entering my office.
I feel so special!!! High five!
o/ \o (that's us high fiving)
:)>>>
o/ \o (that's us high fiving)
Thank you for clarifying. It looks like boobs. o/ \o
and gary is much much fatter
that just means there's more to :)>>>
o/ \o (that's us high fiving)
Thank you for clarifying. It looks like boobs. o/ \o
That's some weird shaped bewbs, double h.
They're outties on a thin frame (the thin frame part is how I know it's not a depiction of me).
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