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Like this will happen in the US....

Well, good for France....the US needs to wake up and warn people about the "junk" they eat...but I'm sure they won't...
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070302/ap_on_he_me/france_eating_right

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This from a nation where just slightly more than 9 percent of the 63.4 million citizens are obese and fewer than a third are overweight, according to government figures. In the United States, by comparison, one-third of adults are obese, about two-thirds are overweight. Several Mediterranean and Eastern European countries have similar statistics....

...Sweden and Norway forbid broadcast advertising aimed at children. Ireland imposed a ban on TV ads for candy and fast food and prohibits using celebrities and sports stars to promote junk food to kids. And Britain has adopted nutritional guidance for food packages.

Come on USA - get on board!  I seriously fear the nutritional condition of this country in 25 years...  What is the obesity rate going to be then?  50%?  75%!?!?

I think I am moving to Europe...  :-\

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To me it's sad that the government has to warm people that eating bad food and not excercising is bad for your health.   To me it's a no-brainer.

I do think the government and the news media in the USA is getting the word out there, on all levels of government.  Maybe we just don't see it, but hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent out there trying to educate people on how to eat better and to make wiser choices for their children.  During my Community Health Nursing course last year, I did some research into these programs.  There's a huge program in my community here, as well as on a national level.    The word is out.  Of course in  hard times these budgets are cut.   Surely by now Americans know that junk food isn't good for them and being overweight is bad.  Surely they do.  I have more faith in us.  People are making their choices and we need to allow for that. 

Could we do better?  Absolutely.   

I definately think that some corporations have too much power in our capitalistic society and their billions spent on ads and markets far out pace any counter attacks government organizations do.  I think school lunch programs should be revamped and snack machines removed from schools. 

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Last time I was in our grocery store, I was appalled by what I saw in other people's carts.  People with little bitty kids buying several boxes of sugary cereal, big bags of potato and tortilla chips and cases of regular soda.  Not a veggie anywhere to be seen, much less healthy sources of protein, like beans.  And they say that vegetables and non-junk foods are too expensive!  I could feed my husband and myself for two months for what one of their carts cost!  I think people have just gotten so lazy and so TV addicted that they can't bother to spend 30 minutes in the kitchen.  It's easier to just hand the kids a bowl of super sugar crap or run through McDonald's for a death burger.  I don't think if they ran a public service about healthy eating and exercising every commercial break, that these folks would change.  In 15-20 years, I'll see them in the doctor's office with a plastic bag with 20 pill bottles in it, just like I'm seeing their parents there today.  Hell, I don't think I ate that bad even I was an omnivore and I still got fat as a behemoth and high blood pressure, which I'm trying to undo. 

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Tweety said:

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There's a huge program in my community here, as well as on a national level.    The word is out.  Of course in  hard times these budgets are cut.  Surely by now Americans know that junk food isn't good for them and being overweight is bad.

Well, if the word is out...I know many are not paying attention. The obesity numbers are going up...way up. I guess you may see a lot more of the info being spread where you work Tweety. I know as a regular normal citizen (abnormal is more like it), I am not seeing it. As TinTexas wrote above, I have posted similar comments many times about food shopping. Back home when I goto my local Kroger, I am often shocked and horrified looking into people's carts. It has nothing to do with if they are wealthy or poor. They all buy 99% processed junk. The store itself is comprised of 99% processed junk (at least in my eyes). I see parents stop at a local gas station in the morning and buy their kids some weird sugar pastry or biscut with dead flesh, and a huge Mountain Dew to wash it all down with. We have a long long way to go to change peoples eating habits. The products on the market seem to be worse then years ago...not better...and people are getting fatter, and school gym programs are being cut back.....sad to see it going on...but it is...

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Dave's there's a couple of wellness programs and outreaches where I work.  Several have been dropped due to poor participation.  There's also a good program for obese children at the hospital next door that focuses on portion control and teaching parents what a portion is.

People aren't much interested in prevention through diet and exercise.  When we complain there are no healthy options in our cafeteria, they offer them, but people, including nurses and doctors line up for hamburgers, french fries and chicken fingers.

My main point is that yes we have a long way to go in changing people's eating habits.  I'm also saying that most people already know that it's not healthy to eat junk food.  Most people know that a low fat diet, with lots of fruits and vegetables is healthy. 

Perhaps we need to look at why despite this knowledge we're not doing it. 

Part of the problem in a free society is people are free to eat what they want, advertise junk food, and sell junk food.  Restricting these "rights" is going to be tough.

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Tweety, I think you hit the nail square on the head. I teach contemporary health classes and most of my students even when presented w/ the facts just refuse to change their habits. Out of every 20 students I might have one that is truly interested in changing their eating habits. It's just like cigarettes. Nobody that has started smoking in the last 20 or so years was under any illusions that there is any thing healthy about it.

Another thing you have to look at is healthcare and who is footing the bill. The French government has a much higher stake in the health of it's people.

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as a personal opinion, i think that programs that are trying to "get the word out" about exercise and diet are nothing more than a way for the government to cover their asses.  (i think the actual people working in the programs probably have nothing but good intentions.)  i am a child of the late 70's, so an analogy that comes to mind is the big "just say no" drug campaign that had tons of celebrities and singers and stuff, many of them were drug abusers themselves.  but by speaking out against drugs, they thought they could cover up their actual behavior. 

yes the word is out there, but much of the information is perverted.  like, "you should choose a 'light' option whenever it is available for your children", etc.  instead of sugar, let's get some good, old-fashioned formaldehyde pumping in those kids!  the society itself is designed to make you fat!  it is just too easy to stay fat and get fatter, even when you know better.  not just the "inconvenience" of it, but also the way you are viewed by others when you are trying to do something that IS actually healthy, like getting rid of animal prodcuts.  there are a lot of stereotypes associated with vegetarianism and veganism and it is almost like people think you are a radical who wants to bomb KFC or something.  also, i find that people assume that you are only doing this for a determined period of time.  at least, in my experience.  "oh, you still don't eat meat?". 

i love america because it's where i am from, but i don't have delusions anymore about how great it is.  my family and i moved to sweden (where advertising aimed at children under 12 is forbidden, as well as any advertising for prescription medicaiton or liquor).  a year and a half ago, and i have to tell you:  America looks even worse from the outside!!

fiona

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The sad part is that the rest of the world is starting to follow the US lead.In Spain of 25 yrs ago, if they hadn't advertised all the junk on TV no one would have touched it. Women usually shopped for fresh food at least 2-3 times a week, some every day because fridges were tiny. But then most women stayed home to raise their families and expectations of "have it all and have it now" were lower. Over time, the famous "Mediterranean diet" has fallen by the wayside as they jump on the bandwagon of "le MacDo" as it is known in France, and chips, and other crap foods because they're easier and quicker. Spanish women now expect to get a degree of some kind and work full time, so they watch the adverts and see the hype and take it all at face value. France makes a lot of fuss about le MacDo but people go in their droves.
When I first moved here a lot of snide things were said about the super-obese Americans, but guess what...it's happening here too. You are what you eat, and if that's sugar, chemicals and fat, well--that's the future.
Even Asia is leaping onto the McD bandwagon...ugh.

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Last time I was in our grocery store, I was appalled by what I saw in other people's carts.  People with little bitty kids buying several boxes of sugary cereal, big bags of potato and tortilla chips and cases of regular soda.  Not a veggie anywhere to be seen, much less healthy sources of protein, like beans.  And they say that vegetables and non-junk foods are too expensive!  I could feed my husband and myself for two months for what one of their carts cost!  I think people have just gotten so lazy and so TV addicted that they can't bother to spend 30 minutes in the kitchen.  It's easier to just hand the kids a bowl of super sugar crap or run through McDonald's for a death burger.  I don't think if they ran a public service about healthy eating and exercising every commercial break, that these folks would change.  In 15-20 years, I'll see them in the doctor's office with a plastic bag with 20 pill bottles in it, just like I'm seeing their parents there today.  Hell, I don't think I ate that bad even I was an omnivore and I still got fat as a behemoth and high blood pressure, which I'm trying to undo. 

Yeah, I have a little game I like to play at the grocery - every time the clerk has to ask me what something in my basket is, or how it is eaten - I give myself a point 8)

It's amazing, but in my area most people have no clue what an eggplant is when they see it, and have no idea what one would do with a block of tofu!

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This chimes with another thread on this board, how so many people just do not care what the food they eat is doing to their bodies. I remember being called "fatty" even though I wasn't all that heavy, I was just big for my age. (I have photos to prove this.)  But I also wore glasses at age 4 on, which in the 60's was just so unusual. So it was easier to label me than some of the heavier but more "normal" (read popular) classmates.
Then, somehow in the 80's being "supersize" became culturally acceptable in the States. I wasn't there  (I'd already moved here in 1982) so I don't know how it happened. At first I was a bit relieved, to think that we didn't all have to be petite (which even if I lose the 15 lbs I have left, I will never be)...but I was just wondering how it was that obesity became the norm. I mean, we had MacDonalds, Hardees and all that before. What happened?
Can anyone enlighten me? Working mothers we had in the 60s'. What happened in the 80's?
I'm not being horrid...don't take it wrong. I just wondered.

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Some "experts" have said that in the 80s was when they started putting high fructose corn syrup in everything and it messes up folks' metabolism and appetite, etc..  I don't know if that's so but I know that since I've been trying to avoid products with it, it's damn near impossible.  I've found only one brand of salad dressing without it, the South Beach diet brand.  I think that the 80s was when what was considered junk food started becoming "regular" food and eaten regularly and not just as a treat.  I also think that the growth hormones and other sh*t they give to chickens, etc. are still there in when the flesh is cooked and cause humans to get fatter too.  I've found that it's easier to lose weight, now that I eat vegetarian, trying for vegan.  It's a very complicated thing and I honestly believe that there's more to it than just overeating and not exercising enough.

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Yeah, I think the rise in obesity is tied directly to the chemicals and growth hormones in food - and most especially in meat, dairy and eggs.

I have some good friends from Africa, and when they moved to the U.S., they continued eating the same diet they had always eaten, but their weight began to shoot up. They say they can taste the chemicals in the food.  :P

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