Posted by yabbitgirl on May 30, 2007 · Member since Apr 2006 · 14266 posts
Good site though I have to say, I never argue...I just get on with a healthy lifestyle and let them see the results in terms of health, energy and weight loss and then tell them "how I did it." I find that citing proof is kind of like the whole atheist/believer debate--they demand proof and then reject it and you end up getting heated. So I just don't talk.
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Posted by OperaChic on May 30, 2007 · Member since Jan 2007 · 661 posts
yeh - I just started dating a carnivore...and he likes to argue about vegetarian nutrition. I hold my own, but he will blindly accept "proof" from meat biased articles, regardless of sources cited or research...and he will boo down any well cited articles I send him that are veg friendly. ::) I actually told him last night, "My choice to avoid eating meat is not an attack on your diet." :P
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Posted by karatekid1975 on May 30, 2007 · Member since Feb 2007 · 456 posts
I like it! Thanks Jennifer. This tags into my Vegan frustration thread. I can just print the first one out, and say "Read this!" :D
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Posted by AshleyKimball on May 30, 2007 · Member since Nov 2006 · 536 posts
"My choice to avoid eating meat is not an attack on your diet." :P
OPERACHIC--this is the BEST quote ever, lol. I have felt this way frequently, but have never been able to but it into words...thank you!
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Posted by OperaChic on May 30, 2007 · Member since Jan 2007 · 661 posts
lol - it did kinda quiet him down.
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Posted by jenniferhughes on May 31, 2007 · Member since Aug 2006 · 1828 posts
I like it! Thanks Jennifer. This tags into my Vegan frustration thread. I can just print the first one out, and say "Read this!" :D
I was actually thinking of you and that thread when i posted this.
I'm not advocating starting arguments ;)
"My choice to avoid eating meat is not an attack on your diet." :P
OPERACHIC--this is the BEST quote ever, lol. I have felt this way frequently, but have never been able to but it into words...thank you!
Same thoughts here. Thanks for articulating it for us!
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Posted by Tweety on May 31, 2007 · Member since Jan 2003 · 3135 posts
Very cool responses. Although like Yabbit, I don't argue.
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Posted by Anonymous on May 31, 2007 · Member since Dec 1969 · 11789 posts
Posted by Anna1111 on Jun 04, 2007 · Member since Dec 2006 · 517 posts
I love the stats on this link! I don't like to argue, either, so I almost didn't look at it - but the stats on world hunger are quite striking, even if you're not arguing :)
It would be great to republish it with a different title. (Does one acre of land really produce 40,000 pounds of potatoes, or is that a typo? It seems unreasonably high)
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Posted by karatekid1975 on Jun 04, 2007 · Member since Feb 2007 · 456 posts
I like it! Thanks Jennifer. This tags into my Vegan frustration thread. I can just print the first one out, and say "Read this!" :D
I was actually thinking of you and that thread when i posted this.
Thanks again, Jennifer :)
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Posted by sicksicksick on Jun 04, 2007 · Member since May 2007 · 2 posts
Part of me can't help asking (timidly), "Why argue?" I read a good article about arguing with friends on the subject of why one should become vegetarian/vegan. The author said that he used to be very aggressive, talking to anyone who would listen. The people with whom he would argue, when confronted with such a straightforward assault, would automatically dismiss the pro-veggie argument because it was coming from such an obvious zealot. The author of this story then went on to say that, on a whim, he decided to try the exact opposite: saying nothing. He was amazed when people's curiosity got the better of them and they started asking questions about his diet and why he chose it. I think that people are, by their very nature, resistent and defensive when it comes to change or their lifestyle choices being challenged. Some people will always refuse to listen to a differring opinion, and it's no use trying to "convert" these people. By letting people ask you about your diet, you are automatically filtering out those people who would not remain objective about the subject. Someone once said that, "When people say, 'I know what I like,' they really mean, 'I like what I know.'"
Good site though I have to say, I never argue...I just get on with a healthy lifestyle and let them see the results in terms of health, energy and weight loss and then tell them "how I did it."
I find that citing proof is kind of like the whole atheist/believer debate--they demand proof and then reject it and you end up getting heated. So I just don't talk.
yeh - I just started dating a carnivore...and he likes to argue about vegetarian nutrition. I hold my own, but he will blindly accept "proof" from meat biased articles, regardless of sources cited or research...and he will boo down any well cited articles I send him that are veg friendly. ::)
I actually told him last night, "My choice to avoid eating meat is not an attack on your diet."
:P
I like it! Thanks Jennifer. This tags into my Vegan frustration thread. I can just print the first one out, and say "Read this!" :D
"My choice to avoid eating meat is not an attack on your diet."
:P
OPERACHIC--this is the BEST quote ever, lol. I have felt this way frequently, but have never been able to but it into words...thank you!
lol - it did kinda quiet him down.
I like it! Thanks Jennifer. This tags into my Vegan frustration thread. I can just print the first one out, and say "Read this!" :D
I was actually thinking of you and that thread when i posted this.
I'm not advocating starting arguments ;)
"My choice to avoid eating meat is not an attack on your diet."
:P
OPERACHIC--this is the BEST quote ever, lol. I have felt this way frequently, but have never been able to but it into words...thank you!
Same thoughts here. Thanks for articulating it for us!
Very cool responses. Although like Yabbit, I don't argue.
great site. thanks for posting!
I love the stats on this link! I don't like to argue, either, so I almost didn't look at it - but the stats on world hunger are quite striking, even if you're not arguing :)
It would be great to republish it with a different title. (Does one acre of land really produce 40,000 pounds of potatoes, or is that a typo? It seems unreasonably high)
I like it! Thanks Jennifer. This tags into my Vegan frustration thread. I can just print the first one out, and say "Read this!" :D
I was actually thinking of you and that thread when i posted this.
Thanks again, Jennifer :)
Part of me can't help asking (timidly), "Why argue?" I read a good article about arguing with friends on the subject of why one should become vegetarian/vegan. The author said that he used to be very aggressive, talking to anyone who would listen. The people with whom he would argue, when confronted with such a straightforward assault, would automatically dismiss the pro-veggie argument because it was coming from such an obvious zealot. The author of this story then went on to say that, on a whim, he decided to try the exact opposite: saying nothing. He was amazed when people's curiosity got the better of them and they started asking questions about his diet and why he chose it. I think that people are, by their very nature, resistent and defensive when it comes to change or their lifestyle choices being challenged. Some people will always refuse to listen to a differring opinion, and it's no use trying to "convert" these people. By letting people ask you about your diet, you are automatically filtering out those people who would not remain objective about the subject. Someone once said that, "When people say, 'I know what I like,' they really mean, 'I like what I know.'"