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The Atlanta News Certainly Loves Vegans!

Now the mother of the man whose baby died due to "starvation" and NOT from being fed a vegan diet is worried about her son. One needs to eat...period! His mother thinks he is going to die because of his vegan diet.....and that is how the Atlanta press is covering it! Read the first sentence...ugh!

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2007/05/10/0501metvegans.html

Time to write a letter to the editor! >:(...d**n....I'm going to invite some of the reporters on a 5 mile run in the mountains here to interview me while we run....if they can actually even finish the first steep uphill mile that is!  :D  Maybe they should do a story on a "healthy vegan" and show people what one looks like, and what one eats. Let's see what kind of response I get...I'll keep you posted! ;)

-dave...the "angry" vegan this morning!

My guess is that he will not continue to be vegan while in prison. Or will end up in a hospital being fed through a tube.

It makes me mad when I read things that are making it seem like starved the child because they were vegans! I wish the people that disagree with vegans could meet my ex.

My ex is a Naval Officer who maxes out his PT test every time he takes. He has the highest PT scores in his division. He has ran a few marathons and this winter jogged over 50 miles in one day. He is also an extremely strict vegan.  (very hard on a ship, especially when it is deployed)

People act as those they are expecting vegans to pass out at any second. I guess it just comes from, not only not understanding, but not wanting to understand how a vegan could be healthy.

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reading the first line, yeah it's true...if she still was taking care of him. then they should worry that he wasn't being fed enough. the report does highlight that it is a starvation issue but, right, why highlight the "vegan" part when it really wasn't the issue.

when did vegans stop eating white bread?  ;D

i think your idea dave is cool--a story of REAL* veganism that will kick yo' @$$!!

*and by real i mean healthy

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I think you should write the letter...but calmly with a cool head.  They may take you up on a healthy vegan interview if you make yourself accessable.
If not, then write the one you really want  ;)

I don't know why on earth you'd expect anything less from the AJC, however.

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I sent an email to the reporter inviting her up here for a run, and also included in my email some other "unhealthy" vegans....like Carl Lewis (9 Olympic Gold Medals)....you know other weak and sickly vegans ;D.... I'll let you know her response  ;)

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I think you should write the letter...but calmly with a cool head.  They may take you up on a healthy vegan interview if you make yourself accessable.
If not, then write the one you really want  ;)

I don't know why on earth you'd expect anything less from the AJC, however.

I was nice.....as nice as someone like me can be :o

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Hopefully the people that read that article also understand that the child was obviously underfed and not just fed the "wrong foods."  The fact that he was only 3 1/2 lbs at 6 months and that he had a bedsore are clear signs that something else is going on outside of his claimed "vegan diet."  I really didn't feel that the article made vegans look "bad" but they certainly didn't make it clear that a child or anyone else could live *healthy* on a vegan diet... 

I think your article is a FABULOUS idea and I hope that they take you up on your offer.  Just try to maintain a "happy vegan" state of mind, I don't know if that kind of publication would run something on an angry vegan!  ha ha...  Keep us updated Dave!  :)

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For what it's worth, the headline on CNN.com was "Dad who starved baby complains about jail food" 
much better than any reference to veganism and more accurate...

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The article itself was not that bad in the AJC. It's the headline that I had a bit of a problem with. I guess it's a "hot" enough topic for them to keep reporting on....not sure why......

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Gotta love the AJC! Really.I live in metro Atlanta, so I hear this story a lot. I think that a lot of people just aren't educated. At school the other day I declined a ham sandwich. Some girl said "Oh You're a vegan. Like those people who killed their baby. That's not healthy." No. I'm a vegetarian, but thanks for checking. A vegan lifestyle is healthy if managed correctly.

I don't know if you get Channel2 news reports, but they interviewed a nutritionist to defend the vegan lilfestyle when ths story first broke. If the AJC declines your offer, then call Channel2- they love doing stories on people who have been in some way slighted.

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Gotta love the AJC! Really.I live in metro Atlanta, so I hear this story a lot. I think that a lot of people just aren't educated. At school the other day I declined a ham sandwich. Some girl said "Oh You're a vegan. Like those people who killed their baby. That's not healthy." No. I'm a vegetarian, but thanks for checking. A vegan lifestyle is healthy if managed correctly.

I don't know if you get Channel2 news reports, but they interviewed a nutritionist to defend the vegan lilfestyle when ths story first broke. If the AJC declines your offer, then call Channel2- they love doing stories on people who have been in some way slighted.

Hey Courth,
No reply from the reporter at the AJC as of yet. Her name is Beth Warren. I think by having a girl coming up to you at lunch and saying what she did to you, shows that the article is kind of taking a swipe at us vegans (and veggies as well). As she said to you..."That's not healthy" clearly shows that many see it on the news, read it in the papers, and lots of kids hear their parents talk about how "unhealthy" it is to be vegan (while sitting at the drive through at Horror King).

Yeah, I get channel 2 WSB, though I never watch it any longer, I'll goto their website and send them an email as well. I just think that if they want to show news that somehome has a "slant" to the story...saying that being vegan is unhealthy, they need to show both sides of the story. Most vegans that I know personally are pound for pound healthier then their unvegan counterparts...hands down. Maybe they need to do a story on the idiots that stop at a gas station on their way to dropping off the kids to school and buy them a Mountain Dew and a Twinkie for breakfast, then get them A Big Mac for dinner.

It's a sad story that a newborn died, and sad that people that should not have a had a child.... had one...very!...it's sadder that the news is still reporting it as a "vegan" problem...which it is clearly not. >:(

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if she responds, let's make it a mult-vegan thing....i'll come up and run circles around her too,
as "educated" as those in the media wish to portray themselves, you'd think they understand/accept the fact that a healthy lifestyle can exist without a:
cow's breast milk
chicken menstruation
carcauses from once beautiful living things
yeah, i'm a bit angry too
i've been catching a lot of flack lately too at work
people are mean and judgemental
always geared up for unnecessary witch-hunts

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Personally, as much as I hate to see vegans get a bad name, and for parents to have babies they shouldn't have, and for babies to die needlessly, I still think the biggest issue here is how the (mainstream) media is pretty much a useless conduit of information. Most media is run by corporate interests, so most information is going to be skewed. Besides half the time time they'd rather feed us stories about Brittany Spears' shaved head, then what's actually going on in the world. Keep the masses diverted. And throw in a little Monday night football to boot (no offense to sports fans). I find you've always gotta dig for the truth. Unfortunately.

In any case, I commend you for taking action, Dave. It's more than I'm doing sitting here staring at my laptop.

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I'm with you Shaolinbunny...this is kind of off topic, but I lived in Miami during the whole Jennifer Lopez/Ben Affleck things and the 6:00 news was like, "a woman drives into a canal, DCFS has lost track of a foster child, 50 Haitians die en route to Miami, BUT FIRST J Lo is in Miami, and there's no sign of Ben!!!"  It was ridiculous...people don't want to hear real news, only things that don't require them to think

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Wow - it's good to hear that there were vegeterians on the jury & that the prosecution called on a vegan nutritionist.  That's actually pretty positive.

The fact that the man isn't eating is the problem.  Personally, I don't care if he starves himself. 

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Nothing from the reporter. Maybe I should email her from another account and tell her that I am concerned that my vegan teen daughter or son, etc. is going to get very ill and possibly die from eating no meat, eggs, or dairy....I wonder if that will get her to email me back to do an interview.....just curious...what do you all think?..... Should I?  ::)

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I think you are evil.

And I love it!

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Tell her you've got Lindsay Lohan hanging out in your living room. The reporter will be standing on your doorstep in less than five minutes.

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I am seeing a pattern with me, my son and many of you about eating. 

Do you know many meaters who think about what they eat versus how they feel afterwards? I don't happen to know any who do.  Most of the ones I know just have this flesh focus thing that is really nasty.

From listening to you all and my son, I think that vegans are more concerned about what they eat, how they feel after it and how to expand their diets to incorporate things that are new to them, i.e. different veggies and fruits.

One cannot equate veganism with child abuse.  That is why this aggravates us all.  A parent who will starve a child will do so no matter what the family "diet" consists of.  Those of us who have children who are vegans understand that one of their greatest needs happens to be getting enough calories.  I don't know about you others, but I bake fruit and nut whole grain dessert breads constantly.  They are sliced and frozen for grabbing for school snacks and munching anytime.  We have a fruit bowl and we buy everything in 5s.  So if I buy plums, I get 10 and bananas 10 and apples 5, etc.  Then everyone has a fruit "assignment" for the week and it all gets eaten.  They eat a LOT of homemade whole wheat bread plain, with peanut butter, soynut butter, Earth Balance, homemade jam whatever.  They drink a lot of soymilk too.  They are also encouraged to eat until they feel satisfied and to eat frequently.  None of them are terribly skinny, except my 13 y/o who has ALWAYS been very thin.  The others are slim, but healthy looking with shiny hair and teeth.  They are FINE.

You know, there are plenty of moms who help their girls to starve in the name of being thin and harp on their weight and every bite they put in their mouths.  That is not healthy either.  Like I said, if parents are going to starve their kids to death, they are going to do it.

My oldest son who has recently gone to being a vegetarian, though his ovo-lacto is limited to the odd egg and some cheese, says that he is finding he is careful about what he eats.  He finds his appetite to be increased, but has lost some weight and is down to a 38 waist in his pants.  He has switched to all kinds of better choices.  He noted to me this week that one cannot just give up meat and live on fruits, veggies and potato chips.  If you try that, he noted, you'll get sick and die.

I can only think that ignorance plays a large role here too. 

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Nothing from the reporter. Maybe I should email her from another account and tell her that I am concerned that my vegan teen daughter or son, etc. is going to get very ill and possibly die from eating no meat, eggs, or dairy....I wonder if that will get her to email me back to do an interview.....just curious...what do you all think?..... Should I?  ::)

It's a brilliant plan, but an evil one. With my luck, I'd do that and she'd want to run comparison interviews or something.  ::)

I can only think that ignorance plays a large role here too. 

Honestly. THAT was the problem, not a vegan diet, obviously.

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the news is really funny; i wonder if the AJC will cover this story!  dave, you should email your the reporter this:

Lose the ads, not the weight, say doctors
FTC says milk campaign under fire for diet claims is ending
Updated: 9:57 a.m. ET May 11, 2007
WASHINGTON - An ad campaign that suggested milk can help people lose weight is ending, the Federal Trade Commission told a doctors’ group that had complained.
The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine contended the weight loss claims were false and misleading. The group, in a 2005 petition, asked the commission to order a halt to the dairy advertisements.
The agency did not take that step, but said in a letter to the committee that the groups behind the ads planned to end them.
“It is obvious that the industry did not have a leg to stand on,” Neal Barnard, president of the Washington-based doctors committee, said Thursday. His group advocates a vegan diet, which typically includes no animal products....

the rest of the article is at:  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18610894/wid/11915773?GT1=100008
it's not quite a backlash, but it made me smile this morning!

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