Article : Soy is making kids 'gay'
Haha, I was just-this-second coming to post that very link!
He made my head spin. Then I laughed a lot. I can't see red when it's so wholecloth-crazy.
Many more children are given cows' milk regularly than soy milk. Why doesn't this guy question the safety of dairy considering all of the hormones given to dairy cows? And really, sexuality is not relevant at all, b/c many societies throughout history have had an accepting or at least tolerant view of same sex relations (ancient Rome, for one. Wikipedia has a lot of info) and I doubt the Romans of old were feasting on tofu and washing it down with soymilk! This is ridiculous.
geeze, just when we thought things were looking up.
I had a good friend (no longer described as such) when I told her that my husband (then boyfriend) was a veg, say "you know, I never really trust a man who won't eat meat." I was flabergasted, but I will say it has to be harder for a man to be veg. I've heard the comments that he has to deal with and it's nothing like what I hear.
Funny, I know several gay men that were raised meat eaters...suppose it's something they put in the cows?
buncha ignorant freaks....
This is probably inappropriate, (I apologise for this), but I MUST share.
My darling husband just read this post and said when he is asked (and unfortunately it is fairly often) :"Oh, you're vegetarian; are you gay?" He says " No, I don't put meat in my mouth."
Hey NutDragon, Funny :)
Well at least science has answered the freaks statement with real facts, not evengelical witchcraft.
;D It sounds like you've got a pretty awesome husband there, Nutdragon. I always admire people that can come up with something witty to say on the spot like that.
Even if it were true, I'd rather "risk" that my kids be gay then raise them to be cruel...
I'm sorry, but I just couldn't finish an article this effing LUDICROUS! Who is this guy? And since when does he know anything about the chemistry of soy... of any food for that matter! Soybeans contain phytoestrogen. It's a little different, Jim. I have a feeling that your religious background and beliefs are offering more guidance to your pen than it requires. When are people going to get over the fact that some men are _actually and truly and NATURALLY_ attracted to other men? Seriously, it has nothing to do with you and is consequently, none of your business. Get over it!! Some people, sheesh.
Thanks for the link, these sorts of things keep me on my toes, I get a little too comfy in my own little world sometimes!
PS. Jim Rutz, the author of this article, is a minister. Not a scientist, chemist, nutritionist nor a doctor.
The best (and worst) thing about these freaks is that they post articles like this on a "huge" global website like that, and these neocons believe every word of it! Then some preachers will start preaching this stuff on Sunday .....and the next thing you know is they're saying Saddam has WMD's....opps that already did that one..... :D
Wow....did he just wake up this morning and decide he didn't have anything better to do. If his theory was correct in any way that would make a lot of Japanese men gay. He needs a hobby.
i must have eaten too much soy... ;D ;D
Being a flaming "hetero" myself, this article might explain why I keep having "wet" dreams about Mark Foley and Tim Haggard! In my dreams I fantasize about the 3 of us sharing a dinner of tofu dogs and huge tofu "sausages" while watching Funny Girl until we explode in Ecstasy together! I've got to stop now and run out to get more tofu dogs and soy milk...I'm almost out.....! :o
i must have eaten too much soy... ;D ;D
I'm much more offended by the implications this article raises about what it means to be gay than the ones about the "danger" of soy making my social, biological, and aesthetic choices for me. This seems like the confluence of two bodies of misunderstanding.
Also, any article that tells you that "recent research shows" something without citing the source(s) has something to hide, period. Most research projects that get cited for sensationalistic things like this are just terrible, but it would be nice to know what primary material he's drawing from. He won't tell you that, because some of it is in his head and he's getting it all from other paranoid, crackpot popular press stuff.
The thing that annoys me about this article the most is that I googled for the topic to find it after accidentally closing my browser and found it reprinted in several crackpot-rightwing venues. Why does soy scare the political right? Why does homosexuality scare them? And why does soy scare the evangelical political types who staff those papers, even granted that I have heard them fuss about homosexuality before? Find out why this is a bone of contention, and we might find out some stunning truths: a connection to dairy or ranching lobbies, for instance. (Of course, I have done ZERO research in this so far and am just spinning guesses, not facts.)
LUCKADUCKY...Well go ahead and "spin"! That's what they (the Evangelicals) are doing. That is ALL they do. They spin political news with no references. They still think they can "cure" gays... ;D! And yes, the Dairy and Cattleman's Associations are ....ahhggmmm... "in bed" with the GOP. They are huge contributers. Being a "Yankee" living down here in the South, I've really come to the conclusion that these Southern Baptists have replaced lynching African Americans with trying to lynch Homosexuals and Latinos. They don't preach love, they preach nothing but hate. There is nothing more hypocritical then a Southern Baptist. It's actually quite "scary' at times listening to them. The best is telling one of them you are vegan. They actually think it means I'm a devil worshiper!!!
Definitely! That's one of the thing that upsets me about the government's nutritional recommendations: the regulatory authorities are heavily lobbied, staffed by people who often have business interests in a given promotional strategy, and stymied not only by overarching policies but by the presence of one another. Marion Nestle's Food Politics was a great first glimpse into that tawdry world.
A quick skim down this list shows an awful lot of cooks in the kitchen.
Also: tee hee! I don't so much mind the insomnia this morning with you up making me giggle-- I'm so glad you're on the forum. ;D
Thanks for the compliment. I've been coming to the site for months to get recipes etc. and never really checked out the Q & A board. I thought I'd stir things up a bit....I tend to do that sometimes. Maybe that can explain why I'm living among these hypocritical Evangelicals in the South (by choice)!....a natural born sadist perhaps!? ::)
Heh. I've lived all over, and like people wherever I go, although I can say with certainty that I can't agree with all of them.
Found a pretty good article to back my somewhat-off-topic fretting about the dairy and meat lobbies enjoying partial control over our national nutritional advisory boards (and I found lots of references to other similarly regulated democracies suffering similar processes):
nice...... I'm a member of the PCRM. Their newsletters and magazines are actually the most informative Vegan reading I usually come across. Facts and medical studies, not spin or fluff. A word to anyone not familiar with them, they are very informative in Vegan diets and nutrition. Just goto www.pcrm.org and sign up.
Oh my God, I guess this means I'll be turning into a lesbian any day now!
In defense of Christains, I actually know some pretty cool ones that practice what they preach. It's just the annoying "literal Bible" readers that make the national media. :-\
Have you ever had someone who can read Ancient Hebrew/Greek read you the untranslated and unedited Bible? It's actually rather enlightening, and very different than the English version.