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Hey All!

Just wanted to say that we're reading over all of your feedback in the other threads about the new look of the forums. Decided to start a thread dedicated to all things new forums! If you have any questions, concerns, comments, praise (!?), or anything else, please leave it here! We take everything you have to say very seriously and will be discussing it at our meetings.

If you don't feel comfortable posting in a forum, you can always email me: laura at vegweb dot com.

Thanks!
Laura

Yeah...I kinda like the more categories, but I think maybe like a few categories with a couple subcategories in each might be better and make it easier to navigate.

Newbies (where people can do intros and ask questions about getting started)
Chit Chat
        General
        Parents/kids
        PG-13
Food and Cooking
        General
        cookbook reviews
        restaurant reviews
        Travel tips
News and Debate
Health and Wellness
        General
        Fitness
        Nutrition

THIS!!!
I kinda like the cutesy names but I also don't like them because they can be a little confusing (like the Nice Package thing haha) and also it seems PPK-ish. And I like VegWeb because it's VegWeb.

I'm with this as well...i like vegweb because it looks vegweb-ish...looks like a message board but is slightly different, more warm feeling.

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I for one could do without the "cutesy" thing. One reader's cute is another reader's truly lame.
And yes, it feels like PPK now...intimidating, confusing. Hard to find what I want.

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Also, in the Stroller Derby description, notso is not a word.

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Also, in the Stroller Derby description, notso is not a word.

Say it's notso!

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Yeah...I kinda like the more categories, but I think maybe like a few categories with a couple subcategories in each might be better and make it easier to navigate.

Newbies (where people can do intros and ask questions about getting started)
Chit Chat
        General
        Parents/kids
        PG-13
Food and Cooking
        General
        cookbook reviews
        restaurant reviews
        Travel tips
News and Debate
Health and Wellness
       General
       Fitness
       Nutrition

THIS!!!
I kinda like the cutesy names but I also don't like them because they can be a little confusing (like the Nice Package thing haha) and also it seems PPK-ish. And I like VegWeb because it's VegWeb.

I'm with this as well...i like vegweb because it looks vegweb-ish...looks like a message board but is slightly different, more warm feeling.

Or even if there aren't officially sub-boards--maybe have some headers that go across each of the sections? I like that it's kind of "themed" now in its organization, but having a visual divider would help to break up the space.

(ETA: you see how "VegWeb forums" looks at the top of the page? Make headers like that to indicate where each of the "themes" begins)

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Yeah, I think that sub-boards would be terribly annoying--once you have to click twice to get to something, you lose people.  You want to be able to see all the related topics at once.  Visual dividers would be awesome.

I feel we're having a bit of an indentity crisis!  We want to stay like our own little "home," but we want to attract more people.   The only reason it feels homey to us is because we KNOW that we have such-and-such threads, and we know where they are.  To strangers it's not so intuitive.  I mean, about 20 new people posted about vegan parenting in the past few months, when there are already 5921 threads about the topic.  This will be better.

I think we tended to use single threads as home bases for related topics--we had a DIY thread, not forum.  Once that gets too long, it's kind of useless.  Now we have a whole room and can post about individual projects, for example.

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I for one could do without the "cutesy" thing. One reader's cute is another reader's truly lame.
And yes, it feels like PPK now...intimidating, confusing. Hard to find what I want.

Agreed.

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Yeah, I think that sub-boards would be terribly annoying--once you have to click twice to get to something, you lose people.  You want to be able to see all the related topics at once.  Visual dividers would be awesome.

i dont' think they would have to be subboards within a board - even if things were grouped by theme so you could click to the board you want, like

Cooking and Dining: Discussion about tasty vegan foods!
Dine and Dish -- Cookbook Chat -- Eating Out -- Special Diets -- ETC

each of the links below would be one to take you to the specific forum you want. i think this would pull more people in because you can find what you want fast (cooking, chat, news, whatever) and then find the board that was best for what you want ("I want to talk about my new cookbook -- oh, cooking and dining ... cookbook chat! that was easy"). i think now people have to look around a little more for things that COULD be grouped up.

I for one could do without the "cutesy" thing. One reader's cute is another reader's truly lame.
And yes, it feels like PPK now...intimidating, confusing. Hard to find what I want.

Agreed.

same here. i think one thing we CAN do if we want to encourage more people to come in is to make the forums basic and very helpful - clear, clean, inviting and not "clicky" (the cute names seem clicky to me b/c they give the impression that we're all "cute fun people" which might turn off those who are not into "cute fun" but are looking for a forum where they can find a home in). having more basic, clear names would also make it easier to navigate.

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I for one could do without the "cutesy" thing. One reader's cute is another reader's truly lame.

I understand that everyone is going to have a different opinion, and I get the need for constructive criticism, but calling it "lame" is a bit rude. People are working really hard to make everything better for us, and are listening to every single suggestion.

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I just wanted to point out that on the homepage, threads are being mixed in with the most viewed / rated recipes.  Like, it has the General Tao's Tofu recipe and underneath that is the aimless chit chat thread.

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I for one could do without the "cutesy" thing. One reader's cute is another reader's truly lame.

I understand that everyone is going to have a different opinion, and I get the need for constructive criticism, but calling it "lame" is a bit rude. People are working really hard to make everything better for us, and are listening to every single suggestion.

Except that it really is my honest, considered opinion that cutesy is a turn-off. Call it lame, or tiresome, or whatever. In point of fact, I find it out of place.
And that's my opinion. Just as anyone else may have one.
Thank you for your input.

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i dont' think they would have to be subboards within a board - even if things were grouped by theme so you could click to the board you want, like

Cooking and Dining: Discussion about tasty vegan foods!
Dine and Dish -- Cookbook Chat -- Eating Out -- Special Diets -- ETC

Right right right.  That's what I meant.  As long as it doesn't become too cumbersome, where you have to scroll down the entire main page.

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See, I disagree that the cute names are necessaily a turn-off to the general joe-shmoe vegan.  I think they provide personality that vegweb kind of lacked when the forums appeared more....bare bones.  Vegweb DOES have a personality, so we should show it!  That's why a lot of people I know choose ppk over us.  They think vegweb is too.....blah.  I think fun names say "friendly" rather than "intimidating."  But maybe that's just me.  I just can't imagine someone being like, "Oh, I was gonna ask a question, but they seem too.......fun?  Nice?"  Maybe that's just me, but it doesn't ring of exclusivity to me.

I initially didn't like Kitchen Sink at the bottom, but I think it's ok because much of what used to be referred to as generic chitchat is now distributed.  Good deal.

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  I think they provide personality that vegweb kind of lacked when the forums appeared more....bare bones.  Vegweb DOES have a personality, so we should show it! 

I agree, but I gather that people are saying they don't think, or want, VW's personality to be "cute," or "cutesy." Is that correct? I don't even think of ppk's forum names as "cute," anyway. I love them, and I love ours, but I think ppk's are more...sarcastic in a way. PPK, as a whole, is definitely not "cute." Do we really want just "food" or "chitchat"? What are you wanting? (non-rhetorical question)

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Yeah I could see that, I'd just hate for it to be so sterile!  It would be nice if it were inviting.

I also don't think ours our cute, I was just using it to differentiate from austere.  PPK's are nice in that they correspond to parts of a house/town.  Maybe people want cohesiveness?  I don't know.

How is veggieboards set up?  I think they have the generic names.  We want to be a cut above them.  ;)

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In my opinion, I don't thing vegweb should try and look like other veggie boards because we are the OG.  But I also think that vegweb as a whole should have goals to achieve with these board conversions.

I'd imagine they'd look something like this:

1. Improve the site to make it more easy to use, more fun, and more like a close-knit community.  (Also to show off the largest and greatest collection of vegan recipes on the web.)

2. Make a configuration that keeps current members happy.

3. Make this a site that new people want to come to, use, and keep using.

4. Convert as many people to veganism as possible.

Some people may disagree with number 4, but like it or not, this is a vegan recipe website, so why not push our wares?

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I haven't been on vegweb all that long, but I love it! I think the new forums are really cool and help keep things organized. But I am also a really organized person, so it appeals to me. It's different, so it takes some getting used to, but I really like it.

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I love it! I think the new forums are really cool and help keep things organized. But I am also a really organized person, so it appeals to me. It's different, so it takes some getting used to, but I really like it.

I wholeheartedly agree! I can't remember if I already said this, but I am also seeing quite a few "new" people (users who already had a post count started, at some point), and more newnew people post! Good sign. ...and not just in the giveaway threads

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about the names - i think we could help brainstorm fun but not "over the top cutesy" names for Laura and crew to consider.

i think the most important part of naming everything is to have a name that makes it clear what is going on in the forum - i think it should be highly intuitive and not something we have to guess at. i think about it like i would label things in my filing cabnet. that SOC100 class that SUCKED ASS isn't labeled "that asswipe class i taught" - it is called "SOC100 Fall 07" or whatever. i can find it easy and i don't have to remember what class was "the sucky class".

Dine and Dish --> a great name for food and cooking forums. It says "come chat about foooood!"

Nice Package --> has had comments concerning it being slang for sexy stuff. not clear what it is about (it is product reviews - many commented they thought it was Adult or something else). as such, not a great name.

I know Laura and crew will take our suggestions seriously about maybe shifting things/tweaking them. when i think of "vegweb" i see us as a very diverse group since we are kind of "generic" (i think, for example, vegan freaks or the ppk get a more "set" type, but what do i know). as our membership grows, i think it is important to keep this in mind when thinking about what to name things, also keeping in mind that we have non-US users who might not understand some of the slang (or worse, the "cutsey" name is offensive slang for them). more neutral = more broad with who we can reach.

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i think i would be happy if all the forums had simple to the point names... then i wouldn't be so confused

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