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aww, more readings on dating and veganism. this time, the clash between the vegans and vegetarians. it seems interesting this is getting so much press lately... so it seems to me.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20991834/site/newsweek/page/0/

A vegan friend of mine "compromised" with his omnivorous girlfriend:  he agreed to eat milk, if she agreed to stop eating meat.  I don't think that's a very good deal for him, and I don't see why the person with all the options and none of the passion about their eating style shouldn't do all the compromising.

I was an ovo-lacto at the time, but went vegan-at-home when I moved in with one, because I didn't think it was fair to him to bring food that grossed him out into his refrigerator.  I still ate some animal products when I ate out with other people.  (I've since swung back toward being vegan again anyway.) 

Even my frat boy/football player/Procter & Gamble salesman father, when he dated a vegetarian, would always order something vegetarian at a restaurant so they could share, and cooked entirely vegetarian whenever she was at his house.

I don't think it should be such a big deal to people to tone down their eating of animal products when they're with the a person they love to whom it's really important, and not just a matter of preference. 

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I didn't like this article.  They seem to be subtly trying to create tension between the 2 veg communities, and are also pointing to vegans and practically saying, "Unaccepting!"  It is still interesting though, as I've never heard of vegan freak or some of these other dating sites.

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I didn't like this article.  They seem to be subtly trying to create tension between the 2 veg communities, and are also pointing to vegans and practically saying, "Unaccepting!"  It is still interesting though, as I've never heard of vegan freak or some of these other dating sites.

i agree. and i think it is funny that we are commenting on both of these threads.  ;D

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Okay so maybe it's just me with this sick little twisted fantasy world..but I really want to date a vegan (I'm lacto-veg).  I want someone to show me new things and teach me about stuff and make things for me.  I know being vegan would be better for me in health as well as go along with my ethics, so I think it would be great to have someone help me out with it.
My "type" has always been people that want to open my eyes to new things, so I don't get why vegetarians would have problems dating vegans.  But I guess I could see how it would be irritating for a vegan

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In my years of being vegan, I've dated 2 omni's, 1 vegetarian, and a vegan, and it was never really a big issue with me.  I'd rather date a vegan, but sometimes I don't have a choice in the matter, and that is fine too.

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The press comes and goes in waves.  I remember pre-lo-carb-craze veg*ns were getting a lot of press.  We were pushed aside by the Atkins eaters, yet we quietly carried on and here we are in vogue again, and the low carb meat eaters have been silenced.  LOL

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I consider a vegetarian my "kin" to ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

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\and the low carb meat eaters have been silenced.  LOL

cause they all died? just a guess?  ::)

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i love dillon.

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\and the low carb meat eaters have been silenced.  LOL

cause they all died? just a guess?  ::)

seriously.  : (    i bet a bunch died from that fad.  ugh.  are there any stats of heart attacks rising during the atkins craze?  im going to look.

i thought this was going to be able dating people who are environmentally conscious.  like, how annoying it is to date someone that doesnt recycle, or who would rather use a dryer instead of hanging up clothes, or who would drink soda instead of water.    maybe this will be the green relationship aspect journalists will focus on next.

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part of me thinks it was the title of the story or the link i clicked on. now that i think about it, it really doesn't make sense (compared to the more appropriatly titled thread).

but at the same time being veg and doing enviro friendly things go together in my book. i even got my roomie to start recycling.

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well i found something about sickness and atkins.  http://www.pcrm.org/health/reports/highprotein_registry.html

i dont know how true it is.  but i do know that when my grandparents went on that diet, my grandfather died of a heart attack (he was a vegan the last couple days of his life, as prescribed by his doctor) and my grandmother got diabetes.  both are listed in diseases caused/triggered by this stupid diet.  ugh.  i can believe that study.  the constipation thing makes sense... why would anyone cut so much fiber out of their diet??  that is ridiculous.

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well i found something about sickness and atkins.  http://www.pcrm.org/health/reports/highprotein_registry.html

i dont know how true it is.  but i do know that when my grandparents went on that diet, my grandfather died of a heart attack (he was a vegan the last couple days of his life, as prescribed by his doctor) and my grandmother got diabetes.  both are listed in diseases caused/triggered by this stupid diet.  ugh.  i can believe that study.  the constipation thing makes sense... why would anyone cut so much fiber out of their diet??  that is ridiculous.

Ugh. Did anyone else check out the sample Atkins menus at the bottom of the article???? How has anyone survived this diet??

My ex's mother went on Atkins twice to lose weight. Each time, after she had lost the weight, she was diagnosed with cancer, breast cancer the first time and then after 7-8 years of remission it was liver cancer and had a large tumor in her throat. She lost the second battle with cancer after about a year and a half. My ex was convinced that the diet changes and the cancer were linked, and the more I read about how animal protein (especially meat) triggers cancer and other diseases, the more I feel the same way.

Scary stuff.

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well i found something about sickness and atkins.  http://www.pcrm.org/health/reports/highprotein_registry.html

i dont know how true it is.  but i do know that when my grandparents went on that diet, my grandfather died of a heart attack (he was a vegan the last couple days of his life, as prescribed by his doctor) and my grandmother got diabetes.  both are listed in diseases caused/triggered by this stupid diet.  ugh.  i can believe that study.  the constipation thing makes sense... why would anyone cut so much fiber out of their diet??  that is ridiculous.

Ugh. Did anyone else check out the sample Atkins menus at the bottom of the article???? How has anyone survived this diet??

My ex's mother went on Atkins twice to lose weight. Each time, after she had lost the weight, she was diagnosed with cancer, breast cancer the first time and then after 7-8 years of remission it was liver cancer and had a large tumor in her throat. She lost the second battle with cancer after about a year and a half. My ex was convinced that the diet changes and the cancer were linked, and the more I read about how animal protein (especially meat) triggers cancer and other diseases, the more I feel the same way.

Scary stuff.

I didnt scroll all the way down, that first menu... goodness gracious.

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\and the low carb meat eaters have been silenced.  LOL

cause they all died? just a guess?  ::)

haha

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Okay so maybe it's just me with this sick little twisted fantasy world..but I really want to date a vegan (I'm lacto-veg).  I want someone to show me new things and teach me about stuff and make things for me.  I know being vegan would be better for me in health as well as go along with my ethics, so I think it would be great to have someone help me out with it.
My "type" has always been people that want to open my eyes to new things, so I don't get why vegetarians would have problems dating vegans.  But I guess I could see how it would be irritating for a vegan

I feel the same way about wanting a vegan to give me that final pull away from lacto-vegetarianism. 

I always think that I could never date someone who isnt at least vegetarian, but then I keep falling for omnis anyways!  ::)  Its probably because I meet so few veg*ns, and when I do meet someone whos veg*n I am overwhelmed with the urge to impress her and end up fraking it up.  ;)

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I feel the same way about wanting a vegan to give me that final pull away from lacto-vegetarianism.  

I always think that I could never date someone who isnt at least vegetarian, but then I keep falling for omnis anyways!   ::)  Its probably because I meet so few veg*ns, and when I do meet someone whos veg*n I am overwhelmed with the urge to impress her and end up fraking it up.   ;)

Don't think of it that way.  Think of it as a really convenient way to get a quick view of what someone's like. 

If she judges you regarding your diet, it's insight to her personality as a whole.  Run away - fast.  That will just be the tip of the iceberg, if you will.  If she's cool with it (just don't bring animal to her house), then you know she likely won't turn into a total controlling, judgmental, nit-picking witch after you've dated for a year. 

I wish everyone had something like being vegan that would allow for such a quick analysis.  But, like you said, how often do you meet a vegan?  I run across a vegan maybe once a year.

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I feel the same way about wanting a vegan to give me that final pull away from lacto-vegetarianism. 

I always think that I could never date someone who isnt at least vegetarian, but then I keep falling for omnis anyways!  ::)  Its probably because I meet so few veg*ns, and when I do meet someone whos veg*n I am overwhelmed with the urge to impress her and end up fraking it up.  ;)

That's the best user name I've seen yet....wormywyrm...it made me laugh out loud!

Welcome to vegweb! (Battlestar fans are always welcome here.)

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\and the low carb meat eaters have been silenced.  LOL

cause they all died? just a guess?  ::)

Sad but true.

Most however have gained the weight back and hopefully gained some understanding that's not the way to go.

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I feel the same way about wanting a vegan to give me that final pull away from lacto-vegetarianism. 

I always think that I could never date someone who isnt at least vegetarian, but then I keep falling for omnis anyways!  ::)  Its probably because I meet so few veg*ns, and when I do meet someone whos veg*n I am overwhelmed with the urge to impress her and end up fraking it up.  ;)

Don't think of it that way.  Think of it as a really convenient way to get a quick view of what someone's like. 

If she judges you regarding your diet, it's insight to her personality as a whole.  Run away - fast.  That will just be the tip of the iceberg, if you will.  If she's cool with it (just don't bring animal to her house), then you know she likely won't turn into a total controlling, judgmental, nit-picking witch after you've dated for a year. 

I wish everyone had something like being vegan that would allow for such a quick analysis.  But, like you said, how often do you meet a vegan?  I run across a vegan maybe once a year.

I agree with HH.
honestly, that article was pretty ridiculous. most vegans (on here anyway) seem like they usually date omnis. it's not so much their food but their attitude.
but, fee and wormywyrm, do you need someone else to 'push' you to veganism? you already have that desire so i would say you probably don't, because other people can give you information, but they can't change you.

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