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Juice Fast w/ Coffee Enemas

Hey Everyone :)

Soooooo...I am planning on embarking on my first juice fast that includes two daily coffe enemas. The reason I plan on doing this is becaue for the last month+ I have been a total junk food vegan eating the worst kinds of foods (I mean the best kinds of foods *lol*). My body feels all out of wack--and I feel slow and just plain *icky*

I know that the health of your intestines is a barometer for the health of your entire body so I would really like to "get in there" and clean mine out--flushing out all that impacted waste and give my body some healing from the stress and abuse it has taken recently.

So I was planning on using Dr. Paavo Airola's Fasting Regime:                     

Upon rising: One single enema, one quart (water or coffee)
     
After the enema do a Dry Brushing of the body followed by a
     
Hot and cold shower
     
8:00a.m. Big mug (approximately 2 cups) of Potassium broth
   
11:00 a.m. Cup of herb tea (Peppermint, rose hips, white clover, chamomile, maté, or any of the other wonderful non-caffeinated teas you can pick up at your local health food store.)
   
1:00 p.m. Glass of freshly pressed fruit juice diluted with the same amount of pure water Or: Glass of freshly made vegetable juice—undiluted (about 4 cups)                        Walk, exercise or sunbathe (about 25-45 minutes).
   
4:00 p.m. Cup of herb tea.
     
7:00 p.m. Glass of freshly pressed vegetable juice (about 4 cups).
Walk, therapeutic baths or other treatmments      

9:00 p.m. Enema (You might want to do this earlier in the evening so you won’t have to get up in the night to go to  evacuate.)

Drink plain, warmed water when thirsty (As much as you want)

Soooooo…Has anyone ever heard of this doctor, for anyone who has gone through this kind of juice fast does the program seem reasonable, and—as embarrassing as it is—can those who have done coffee enemas (at home) give some tips, advice (or a funny story??) I’m also seeking kick ass juice recipes!

I’m Starting Saturday and hope to do a total of 7 days—I read that your first fast should be 10 days and you can do them for up to 40 days (what??!!) but I think 7 is about all I can handle!

I would really appreciate any help any of you have!! Thanks Vegweb!!!

That doesn't sound healthy.  First, you don't need to clean out your intestines--they do that themselves, and clearing them out too much is dangerous; and second, if you want to make a change then just start eating your normal healthy way again and things will shift back to normal.  It sounds like a bad idea to me, from a health standpoint.

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This sounds very exciting!

I hope that you won't put too much pressure on yourself to stick to the 10+ days. (That's sort of counter to the idea of detoxing, isn't it?) I think that enemas, colonics, and purifying juices can have a positive effect on the body, but the fasting period can also be a stressful one. My longest fast was something like a week on juice and tea, with a liberal application of senna. I remember feeling really tired a lot of the time -- plus, I kept trying to exercise instead of relax.

There are some good fasting resources and articles here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2002/mar/09/restandrelaxation.shopping, http://www.healthpromoting.com/Articles/articles/therap.htm

My opinion (not that it matters) is that as long as you're fasting for your health, and not too lose weight, you're fine. Do yoga, meditate, check out from the world. Watch your body change and nurture it. And check in with a naturopath or colon hydrotherapist at some point, just to make sure you're not stressing your body excessively.

Take care!  :)>>>

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The book I was just reading, "A Woman Trapped Inside a Woman's Body" by Lauren Weedman (she's a comedian) had a chapter about her getting a coffee enema and it was hysterical. 
Good Luck!  I have yet to schedule my colon hydrotherapy....I'd prefer for someone else to clean my colon for me, but I'm just lazy.

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That doesn't sound healthy.  First, you don't need to clean out your intestines--they do that themselves, and clearing them out too much is dangerous; and second, if you want to make a change then just start eating your normal healthy way again and things will shift back to normal.  It sounds like a bad idea to me, from a health standpoint.

Word.

Juice fasting + enemas is a starvation diet. Your body can't keep food around long enough to digest all that it's supposed to. Yeah, maybe you don't want as many calories, but you seriously need the nutrients (vitamins, minerals). As far as cleaning out gut bacteria, those guys are your friends. In fact, when people go through serious antibiotic therapy and wind up losing most of their gut bacteria, a dangerous possibility is colonization of the intestine by Clostridium difficile. It's a normal inhabitant of the intestine, but the millions of other bacteria in their usually keep its population at bay. What's weird/cool is that to solve this lack-of-bacteria they give you a ... poop enema. That's right. With someone else's poop.

Getting in the habit of eating lots/unhealthfully and then going on a fast/cleanse type thing is not very healthy for the body or mind :(

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The book I was just reading, "A Woman Trapped Inside a Woman's Body" by Lauren Weedman (she's a comedian) had a chapter about her getting a coffee enema and it was hysterical. 
Good Luck!   I have yet to schedule my colon hydrotherapy....I'd prefer for someone else to clean my colon for me, but I'm just lazy.

I don't think "Merry Maids" does that kind of cleaning, unfortunately ...  :>

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id listen to fb - shes smart.

i think if you want to cleanse, it would be way healthier to just go back to heavily raw for awhile.

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id listen to fb - shes smart.

i think if you want to cleanse, it would be way healthier to just go back to heavily raw for awhile.

Yes!  I knew fb would come through with the scientific goods.  I mean, basic science tells you that a cleanse/fast does exactly THE OPPOSITE of what you want--it's not purifying you, it's making your systems function worse, and it will make you hungry and tired.  Why would you want that?

Also, just make sure you realize that this will screw up your metabolism.  Your metabolism will be so low that it will be difficult for you to start eating normally (healthy kind of normal, even) without putting on weight again.  You will throw everything out of whack. 

Honestly, eat salads for a day and you will clean out your colon in a day's time.  Your body doesn't like shocks--you need to make a seamless transition to healthy eating asap.  Not starvation (unhealthy), then healthy.  Man up and do it the right way.  You can do it!  We'll support you.

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Oh hey, as an added note, if you do go on a high-fiber diet (raw or otherwise), make sure you drink lots o water - a lot of fiber can actually be constipating if you're dehydrated. Weird, but it's happened to me before  :-[

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You guys are coming down kind of hard on this....I'm sure there are some healthy fasts out there. And I don't think anyone has given any positive feedback.... well here's my positive feedback  :)>>> :

I'm not really educated on the subject so I can't really speak of any particular ones.
I think what might work is a combination of a fast and 'safe' foods like fresh fruits or steamed vegetables and teas (smooth move/ fiber/ psyllium husk, etc), things to help still keep you 'clean' etc....
..... I think if Capture's made up her mind to do some form of fast, she probably will. It's not like she's a minor and endangering her health!
And it's not like she's planning to go on any kind of starvation fast or anything.
Fasts, periodic fasts even, are supposed to be healthy for the body.

The only fast I know a little bit about is the Breuss juice diet fast which is rid the body of cancer cells etc because I know someone who embarked on this cleanse. Also, the lemonade Master cleanse and the salt water (non-iodized sea salt) cleanse.
I think I'll maybe do some more research and post. I don't think all fasts are unhealthy or bad, as it may seem some are trying to suggest.
I think as long as you have vital nutrients (vitamins and minerals)  like potassium, iron in the juices or via supplements etc and you do it in intervals like a few days to no longer to a week, then return to some normal fruit/veg and then go back, not only will you detox your body but you will also shed a few pounds. However, I think, if your goal is more than a few pounds weight loss, I think it's healthier to  assess your current diet/exercise and do some calorie intake reduction of your normal diet and increase exercise.

You could do like a 3 day diet analysis on fitday.com or similar diet analysis software and see what your highest sources of calories/fat/protein, etc are and make some changes. Such as for example if you're eating a lot of coconut oil on a daily basis, but it's not providing a lot of protein, etc and you already have adequate fats/omega-3's in your diet, you might decide to cut that out of your diet. These are just some example ideas, I'm not saying you do this :) Also by doing a food diary, you could not when you eat and why, like if you're doing emotional eating (I think everybody does this to some degree....food as comfort.....sucky for us w/ sluggish metabolism like me!) to modify eating so you're eating for fuel and not for emotional fulfillment. This is particularly difficult for those of us who have struggled with any sort of ed because food presents itself everyday (not like drugs or alcohol, etc!) and it's like a daily challenge to attain the right relationship with food and not punish ourselves with restriction, bingeing, etc.... Honestly, I don't know if the ed ever goes away for good, it's just kind of waiting in the wings, there are just good days and bad days. But all you can really think about is today and try to do your best for today. Don't think about tomorrow or the future and the pressure that all of that brings. And don't think about the past. You can't change it. It's over. Your point of power is in the present moment (as Louise Hay says). Anyways, I wanted to include that bit because I don't want anyone to think I'm promoting ed behavior because I've struggled with it since I was a Girl Scout, and if you've been there, you know that it never really goes away. Unfortunately I've experienced that it never really goes away for good (of couse I"m not an ed counselor so someone else might disagree) but I've found that what helps the most in staying away from that pathway is eradicating all-or-nothing thinking and trying to stay as present as possible and realize the freedom of choice and renewal and starting over-- Even if you think you've messed up in some way, in some part of your life, Every minute, every moment is a new opportunity to start again. You're not stuck. You can start anew, again, anytime you choose. Thinking this is very freeing! You can't rid your daily life of food like you can with other substances. It's just kind of a daily battle.  Also, for everyone's info, there is a lot of disordered eating that may not fall into particularly ana/mia/ but more ed not otherwise specified, like if all someone eats on daily basis is dark leafy greens. That's disordered eating. So....OK Moving on from ed tangent!....

...1 lb of fat  is 3500 calories. So if you wanted to lose 1 lb a week, for instance, you would need to decrease your calories by 500 calories a day.
Ideally by minus 250 calories intake and increase 250 calorie expenditure by exercise. If you wanted to lose 2 lbs a week, you would need to deduct 7000 calories from your weekly intake, so 1000 calories a day, ideally by -500 calories from food and minus 500 calories from exercise, because -1000 calories would be kind of drastic, and it's important to be exercising, increasing muscle mass/tone and metabolism while losing weight and reducing calories, so you're not flabby.
Also, lifting weights is really good to raise your metabolism and build muscle and is a quicker workout than a bunch of cardio every day, becaue you would do weight training every other day per muscle group like arms every other day, lower body every other day. Abs could be every day. Also, because muscle weights more than fat, it may not be so much about the *number* on the scale, but a lean, toned look which could be achieved by more muscle mass, less percentage body fat, but possibly a higher number on the scale due to increased muscle and less fat which weighs less.
Ok, that's all I got right now. Best of luck to you!  ;)b

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Ahem. I gave positive feedback ... I think.

Anyway, I read this in Kate Wood's Eat Smart, Eat Raw cookbook:

Personally, I had experienced a very rocky relationship with food. Some people say that raw food diets encourage or even create eating disorders; for me it was the reverse, as discovering raw foods helped me to overcome my problems with food. Since adolescence I had been trapped in a binge-fast cycle, leading to periods of emaciation, and periods of being overweight. I believe that this was due in part to my instinctive recognition that the foods I was eating weren't right for me: I would reject them, only to be overcome eventually by hunger and greed, which would then be followed by repulsion at all the rubbish I had in my body. Raw foods were a revelation: at last I could eat as much as I wanted, and not feel terrible. Eating half a dozen cookies made me feel sick and tired; eating half a dozen apples left me feeling overfull, but not ill. Over time, as my body got used to being fed, nurtured, and respected, the desire slipped away. As food no longer disturbed my internal balance, my fear of it disappeared.

I'm not saying that Capture might feel this way ... but it certainly rang a bell with me.

I think that, if fasting feels good and right, and is a positive process, it's not going to hurt you.
And that's all I'm going to add to this thread.

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Ahem. I gave positive feedback ... I think.

Anyway, I read this in Kate Wood's Eat Smart, Eat Raw cookbook:

Personally, I had experienced a very rocky relationship with food. Some people say that raw food diets encourage or even create eating disorders; for me it was the reverse, as discovering raw foods helped me to overcome my problems with food. Since adolescence I had been trapped in a binge-fast cycle, leading to periods of emaciation, and periods of being overweight. I believe that this was due in part to my instinctive recognition that the foods I was eating weren't right for me: I would reject them, only to be overcome eventually by hunger and greed, which would then be followed by repulsion at all the rubbish I had in my body. Raw foods were a revelation: at last I could eat as much as I wanted, and not feel terrible. Eating half a dozen cookies made me feel sick and tired; eating half a dozen apples left me feeling overfull, but not ill. Over time, as my body got used to being fed, nurtured, and respected, the desire slipped away. As food no longer disturbed my internal balance, my fear of it disappeared.

I'm not saying that Capture might feel this way ... but it certainly rang a bell with me.

I think that, if fasting feels good and right, and is a positive process, it's not going to hurt you.
And that's all I'm going to add to this thread.

I totally didn't read through each comment so I probably missed your supportive comment. I just wanted to make sure she didn't feel ganged up on  ;)b
I just kind of skimmed and it seemed like everybody was like 'No! Don't do it!' and it just seemed a little extreme.
Yay for support.

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My two cents...

As a person that likes to fast and has done it often I disagree with it "always" being unhealthy.  Although hypothetically speaking, for a person with a history of ed's it can be used as an excuse to not eat...(I'm am not saying that is what you are doing!) But it easy to say to family and friends "oh I am on a cleansing fast" as you refuse food.  Also once you start a fast it becomes easier and easier to not eat...it is almost addictive and somewhat competitive..."just one more day" so it can be potential triggering and dangerous to someone with an ed history. 

Food for thought so to speak. ???

I have done the fast you wrote about..with the exception of the enemas...I don't do enemas. :o It is not unhealthy...If you read it it has lots of veggies (8 or more cups of fresh veggies and fruits in the juice not to mention the potassium broth!) I think you will be fine Cap.  Just keep things in mind.

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Hey Everyone,

I just got back to this thread just now--thank you all for your input, although not everything was positive, I realize that everything was said with my best interest at heart and that you are all caring and supportive people :)

I am a little surprised by some of the reactions though, simply because juice fasting is something that other people have undertaken here and has been disscussed before I don't recall anyone being told to "man up and do it right" (sorry Katie--I'm not picking on you, but that did come across a litle harsh, I know you meant it with love, but owie!!)

Anyways--from the research I have been doing, a period of fasting can be very beneficial to the body--certainly, not all fasts go as planned or do everything one thinks they will--but I won't know how I will feel or what benefits I can gain until I have tried it. My plan is to follow Dr. Airola's plan Saturday and Sunday and reasses on Monday. I have made an appointment with an OBGYN for some girly troubles I am having and will ask her opinion as well (I realize that is not the optimum chioce of person to ask--but i have no health insurence and the Planned Parenthood is the best I can do right now and a homeopathic/hydrothearpist is waaaaay too expensive--at least I'm going in to see somebody...)

If I maintaing the fast it will be for a mazimum of 7 days. I have gone shopping and have thoroughly stocked up on tons and tons of fruits and veggies and I am making up a large batch of the pottassium broth (potatoes, beets, turnips, carrots, seasoning, ect.) I plan on being as careful as I humanly can--and--since it came up--this is not about trying to lose weight. This is about me wanting the best for my body and hopefully cleansing and purifying mysef so I can feel better. I feel pretty awful right now and not just because of some stress problems I am having.

I am really lookingforward to meditating, taking long walks and tuing ino myself during this perido and reflecting on my life while my body detoxes.

I continue to welcome any and all comments, suggestions, and helpful links!! Thank you all very much--and again, I know everything was aid with love and support, thank you all for caring for me--it really does mean a lot <3

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My two cents...

As a person that likes to fast and has done it often I disagree with it "always" being unhealthy.  Although hypothetically speaking, for a person with a history of ed's it can be used as an excuse to not eat...(I'm am not saying that is what you are doing!) But it easy to say to family and friends "oh I am on a cleansing fast" as you refuse food.   Also once you start a fast it becomes easier and easier to not eat...it is almost addictive and somewhat competitive..."just one more day" so it can be potential triggering and dangerous to someone with an ed history. 

Food for thought so to speak. ???

I have done the fast you wrote about..with the exception of the enemas...I don't do enemas. :o It is not unhealthy...If you read it it has lots of veggies (8 or more cups of fresh veggies and fruits in the juice not to mention the potassium broth!) I think you will be fine Cap.  Just keep things in mind.

Thank you THHF and I will keep all of those things  in mind--everyday. **promises**

<3

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I'm just dying to know why coffee? It seems like putting something somewhere it should not go, heh. But then tea would be weird too. Hmm. Enema dilemma.

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Hey Everyone,

I just got back to this thread just now--thank you all for your input, although not everything was positive, I realize that everything was said with my best interest at heart and that you are all caring and supportive people :)

I am a little surprised by some of the reactions though, simply because juice fasting is something that other people have undertaken here and has been disscussed before I don't recall anyone being told to "man up and do it right" (sorry Katie--I'm not picking on you, but that did come across a litle harsh, I know you meant it with love, but owie!!)

Anyways--from the research I have been doing, a period of fasting can be very beneficial to the body--certainly, not all fasts go as planned or do everything one thinks they will--but I won't know how I will feel or what benefits I can gain until I have tried it. My plan is to follow Dr. Airola's plan Saturday and Sunday and reasses on Monday. I have made an appointment with an OBGYN for some girly troubles I am having and will ask her opinion as well (I realize that is not the optimum chioce of person to ask--but i have no health insurence and the Planned Parenthood is the best I can do right now and a homeopathic/hydrothearpist is waaaaay too expensive--at least I'm going in to see somebody...)

If I maintaing the fast it will be for a mazimum of 7 days. I have gone shopping and have thoroughly stocked up on tons and tons of fruits and veggies and I am making up a large batch of the pottassium broth (potatoes, beets, turnips, carrots, seasoning, ect.) I plan on being as careful as I humanly can--and--since it came up--this is not about trying to lose weight. This is about me wanting the best for my body and hopefully cleansing and purifying mysef so I can feel better. I feel pretty awful right now and not just because of some stress problems I am having.

I am really looking forward to meditating, taking long walks and turning into myself during this period and reflecting on my life while my body detoxes.

I continue to welcome any and all comments, suggestions, and helpful links!! Thank you all very much--and again, I know everything was aid with love and support, thank you all for caring for me--it really does mean a lot <3

Yay Capture! I'm happy for you and your meaninful  journey to deeper self-discovery, love and appreciation. This is clearly not just a fast for you.
Feel free to update us with any progress and ask for any support if you need it :)
(((hugs)))

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I am a little surprised by some of the reactions though, simply because juice fasting is something that other people have undertaken here and has been disscussed before I don't recall anyone being told to "man up and do it right" (sorry Katie--I'm not picking on you, but that did come across a litle harsh, I know you meant it with love, but owie!!)

You can pick on me all you want.  I'm not giving out hugs and kisses for something I think is downright dangerous and unhealthy.  You will lose muscle, your metabolism will slow, you will flush out symbiotic bacteria, and you will develop slight nutrient deficits.  You won't lose toxins--toxins are in your bloodstream and tissue, not your gut.  You can reflect on your life and take long walks without starving yourself.  ???

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There is a difference between fasting and starving yourself. It's obvious that Capture is going about this in a positive, responsible way (consulting her OB-GYN, taking time to assess, etc.).

I think you've made your opinion very clear several times in this thread. Do you need to be so consistently negative about someone else's personal choice? I respect that your feelings may come from a place of concern, but manners are important too.

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Hey.
Cap asked for our advice, and that's what we want to give. She didn't say "please only speak if you are going to say totally positive things, hugs, and kisses." I mean, she didn't SAY that. We don't always have to be lovey dovey, we can speak honestly (while not attacking another person). We know each other here.

Anyway, coffee enema?!!?? Why? Not that I know ANYTHING about that, but intuitively, that sounds insane. I don't really have to say anything else, because I'm sure cap already knows how I feel on the issue!
Be careful about that metabolism thing, that's HUGE.

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Hey.
Cap asked for our advice, and that's what we want to give. She didn't say "please only speak if you are going to say totally positive things, hugs, and kisses." I mean, she didn't SAY that. We don't always have to be lovey dovey, we can speak honestly (while not attacking another person). We know each other here.

The Great Mediator hath spoken!
...I'll go about my business then.  ::)

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