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I thought a good topic would be to start a thread with cool veg*n quotes.
I know I've heard some great ones.... but I can't think of any right now... hence the need for this thread.  :D

My current one:

Quote:
you silly, silly pedant.

dessie.

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Jerk.
hmmph.

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If you're not going to post quotes, get the fuck off the quotes thread. 

Poor animals! How jealously they guard their pathetic bodies…that which to us is merely an evening’s meal, but to them is life itself.
—T. Casey Brennan (1948–)

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I apologize.

I ask people why they have deer heads on their walls.  They always say because it's such a beautiful animal.  There you go.  I think my mother is attractive, but I have photographs of her.  ~Ellen DeGeneres

I love Ellen, without a doubt.
I think it's great that both her and her wife are vegan.

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If you're not going to post quotes, get the fuck off the quotes thread. 

Poor animals! How jealously they guard their pathetic bodies…that which to us is merely an evening’s meal, but to them is life itself.
—T. Casey Brennan (1948–)

Wow, you're getting that angry over something so small?
No need to swear at people but if we're going to get like that you can choke on my dick yeah?

As for quotes:

“But no punishment ought to be allotted merely to this purpose(revenge), because (setting aside its effects in the way of control) no such pleasure is ever produced by punishment as can be equivalent to the pain”-Bentham

" Is a vegetarian permitted to eat animal crackers? "-carlin

"Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part to us, do they? "-carlin

“But as the king of the vultures would be no less bent upon preying upon the flock than any of the minor harpies, it was indispensable to be in a perpetual attitude of defence against his beak and claws. The aim, therefore, of patriots, was to set limits to the power which the ruler should be suffered to exercise over the community; and this limitation was what they meant by liberty.”-mill

"capitalism doesn't work, neither does communism, what we need is a socialism under a benevolent dictator, like santa"-pagan wanderer lu

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"If you have to crash land, do it with flair." - Super Grover

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"If you have to crash land, do it with flair." - Super Grover

Actually that sounds like something Gonzo the Great would say.

Someone once attributed to PT Barnum, "If you're gonna fail, fail big." I think it's apocryphal but I love it.

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Here are a couple I feel are relevant to me right now:

All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.  ~Anatole France

The idea is to die young as late as possible.  ~Ashley Montagu

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Theo, that second quote made me laugh. As a child of the 60s with much older siblings, I absorbed the "live fast die young" idea, and finally discovered why (at 17) I said I would probably die by the age of 27. (Jimi Hendrix, Janice Joplin, Jim Morrison et al: all 27. But then my name doesn't begin with J and I'm not a rock and roll legend.) I was discussing this with an American friend who lives here, several years ago. Since then, every birthday she calls and asks me, "Still gonna die young?"

Yeah...I may be 80 when I check out but I intend to die young.

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Here are a couple I feel are relevant to me right now:

All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.  ~Anatole France

The idea is to die young as late as possible.  ~Ashley Montagu

That's a nice first one.
Reminds me of buddhist tradition:
Nothing is permanent.
The mind is in constant flux as a result (no soul doctrine).
We're constantly dying/being reborn (not re-incarnated)-I don't believe in rebirth but it is interesting.
Everything leads to dukkha (or unsatisfactoriness) in our current life styles.
One of the main reasons for this is attachment, we become attached to X, situation around X or X itself, or both, change, we are left with Dukkha.

That's very basic and there are many other issues surrounding it, but for the most part I agree:P.

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Yabbit, I've always been of the same mind :) live fast, die young, better to burn out than fade away etc etc

But doing all of that in a completely rockstar fashion as late as possible suits me just fine :)

asleep on a sunbeam -  I guess it is a question of attachment, and I've always enjoyed the Buddhist thoughts about it.
But when something changes around an attachment, or breaks the attachment, and I feel that melancholia, I don't think it's always a negative thing or any will necessarily mean lasting dukkha. I think it's important. Because how can we know what we want, and that we're doing the right thing for us at this time if none of the choices we make are necessarily hard?

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I haven't looked through the whole thread, but I really liked this one from the book Watership Down:

"Animals don't behave like men...if they have to fight, they fight; and if they have to kill, they kill. But they don't sit down and set their wits to work to devise ways of spoiling other creatures' lives and hurting them. They have dignity and animality."

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Also, less veg-related, but some of my favourite quotes of all time are from Jeanette Winterson's books. I think she's able to describe things in a way that expresses so much emotion that people often find hard to convey, and she does it so well.

"When I had regarded myself for the first time, I regarded the world & saw it to be more various & beautiful than I thought...I longed for feeling though I could not have told you that...we fear passion & laugh at too much love and those who love too much." (from The Passion)

More veg-related (this is from Art & Lies):

"Who controls whom? Is the market for me, or am I for the market? The human pig trussed up & sold in quarters off a greasy stall. Long pig, favourite delicacy of the market, never count the cost to the human soul."

And of course, it wouldn't be complete without a quote from Written on the Body:

"I had a steady heartbeat before I met you. I relied upon it, it had seen active service and grown strong. Now you alter its pace with your own rhythm, you play upon me, drumming me taut."

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Theo, I think it was Sankey who said, "It is better to wear out than to rust out." And if he didn't, I know for a fact Sister Dora Pattison (the mother of modern hospital nursing) did. But I think she was quoting him.

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They must've been real f***ed off over in Corinth, don't you think? The postman going,

Come on, one of you Corinthians, gotta take this letter.

Oh, f*** off! That's from old mourner St. Paul, isn't it? No I don't want it, I don't want it!

You gotta take it. Come on, I gotta have a signature for it.

Oh, f*** off! It says the CorinthianS, plural. Ask someone else. Oh, give it here. What does it say? Don't do this, don't do that. Never put a sock in a toaster? Jam on a magnet, Ooh, hes lost his brain, ain't he? Whose idea was it to be a pen-pal with St. Paul anyway? That f***ing backfired, didn't it? Hes supposed to stop doing it at about 15, hes been doing it for years. Come on, Corinthians, come on, general meeting. Were gonna write a letter back to him, stop all this rubbish.

The Corinthians Letter Back to St. Paul - Chapter 1- Verses 1 to a million. More letters to follow. Tuesday 28th... of something. Dear Paul - (Saint, apparently), f*** OFF! Just fu- who are you? Why do you keep sending us letters? You arrogant bastard, you send a letter to an entire city! What do you want us to do, put these up in a board or something? Just f*** off! You're coming on like Alistair Cooke, for f***s sake! ˜Never put a sock in a toaster,whats all that about? You daft git.

Love and kisses, the Corinthians.

To Saint Paul ...  OUTSIDE Corinth.

- Eddie Izzard

"Religion, legend, myth, fable... at some point you are left with the truth."

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hahahaa I LOVE eddie izzard! and that St Paul's letters bit is amazing!

I also really enjoy his Christmas/Last supper bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2iCNFYIrqI

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I can't get the trees...AH DAMN, I WILL KILL EVERYONE!

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I saw Eddie Izzard last week on the Paul O'Grady show and he doesn't even talk or look like the same person. I guess he has either been replaced by someone else (a la Paul McCartney) or he has "reinvented" himself.

He also seems to have lost his sense of humour (and dress) along the way.

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He's doing some serious television role now which is possibly why he looks and sounds different - he was representing the tv show rather than himself?

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I haven't looked through the whole thread, but I really liked this one from the book Watership Down:

"Animals don't behave like men...if they have to fight, they fight; and if they have to kill, they kill. But they don't sit down and set their wits to work to devise ways of spoiling other creatures' lives and hurting them. They have dignity and animality."

I love the term "animality".

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