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Jacksonville, NC is no place for a vegan to live. :(

  My husband and I moved to Jacksonville, NC last October. He is in the marine corps., so choices were limited (non-existent). This town consists of pawn shops, strip clubs, steak houses, and tattoo parlors. Marines run the streets in giant, mud-slangin', confederate flag flying trucks with grins on their faces (if you're a woman, and you have breasts) and loud music.
  If one brings up veganism, vegetarianism, or anything involving NOT ingesting meat, one is stigmatized and often ridiculed. Imagine! A marine that doesn't eat meat... "GAY."

I guess what I'm trying to say is... That I'm so happy websites like this exist! I read posts and replies and I laugh and I google and I cry.

I just want to introduce myself, I'm Phoebe.
I love being a vegan. I love cooking vegan. I love talking about and advocating veganism. I am a passionate vegan and a loving mother of three non-human beings.

:)

ah, yes, this is a haven for many. i certainly had no vegan in my life when i started frequenting the boards.
welcome!

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Welcome.  You're among friends.  The only real live vegan I know is someone I met through posting here when we found out we lived in the same town.

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i love being in small towns like that and when you go out to eat the veggie option is steamed brocoli and squash. 

then the people you're with look at you like... "mmmm!!  does that sound good to you??"

i think... "hell no!!  i'm starving!!  would you like to eat brocoli and squash for dinner??"
i say... "looks just fine... wanna a beer?"

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Hello! My family lives in Charlotte, NC right now. I am not sure how close it is to Jacksonville; however, there are many vegans/vegetarians here. I have noticed that if you even mention "vegetarian" around many parts of North Carolina, people will look at you like you are crazy. Maybe try educating others about how great it is to cut out animal products from one's diet.
Good Luck!

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hespedal: Thank you! I've already found many interesting things to look up and try. :)

Tweety: It would be amazing to find someone that lived in my town. My husband and I would have someone to invite over for Sunday brunch. It's always great having a fellow vegan over. I feel like they are the only ones that truly appreciate moist and gooey fruit muffins.

longer_look: Seriously, you're right on the ball with the squash and broccoli. We were eating at a Mexican restaurant here for awhile only to discover that there was pork in our beans after we asked and ordered off the vegetarian menu. We wondered why we were always ill when we ate there...
We had a couple of friends that took us to a "bar and grill" and we ended up retiring to our car. They dumped the beef in front of you and cook it. I guess it would be enjoyable if the sight/smell of animal flesh didn't gross me out. I'm not even old enough to drink, so no luxury there. lol

lovelyvegan: Charlotte, NC is about three or four hours from us. My husband's aunt lives there. Charlotte is a more veggie savvy place to live. I think they might actually have a Whole Foods! Some people are thrilled, others are far from it. I bake for my friends and my husband's coworkers often... They still tease us, but in good humor.

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Haha!  Spent half my married life there as a marine wife!  Ya'll want some pork BBQ and hush puppies and you're in the right place!  I turned vegetarian once we were stationed at Quantico, and was close enough to DC to get some good food, but.......may the force be with you at Camp Lejeune!  You probably won't be there forever..... Home is where the Marine Corps sends you!

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Haha!  Spent half my married life there as a marine wife!  Ya'll want some pork BBQ and hush puppies and you're in the right place!  I turned vegetarian once we were stationed at Quantico, and was close enough to DC to get some good food, but.......may the force be with you at Camp Lejeune!  You probably won't be there forever..... Home is where the Marine Corps sends you!

It drive me crazy. ha ha. You're so right! Luckily my husband and I are stationed at New River, a bit smaller than Lejeune. We have a little place on the outskirts of Jacksonville, so we don't have to deal with too many drunken marine fights in the front yard. We'll be here for three more years. My husband wants OUT. :) I don't blame him. Being a vegan in the marine corps... isn't easy.
Yes, the marine corps. does expect you to love where they send you. I don't think this place will ever be home. :(

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Hi Pheobe! Welcome! People like you who are making it work where it's not easy really inspire me. Luckily, VegWeb has over 13,000 recipes to keep you busy in Jacksonville! Oh, do you ever make it to Asheville? I hear there are amazing vegan eats there!

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Yes The Laughing Seed in Asheville is soooooo good!

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Hi Phoebe!  We are in Virginia Beach which is better but not a lot!  It's weird but when we lived in Texas it was much easier and more accepted. I got very little flak there, but here it seems like most people are very set in their ways, which includes heavy consumption of meat.

I have actually switched to saying that I eat a plant based diet, or simply - I don't eat meat, rather than using the v word which seems to bring out a lot of righteous indignation in people.

I do know what you mean about your husband - I do feel sorry for mine because he definitely has it worse than me.  If a woman is a veg*n, it's just quirky, but if a man is veg*n, then he must be gay.  Ridiculous!

Good thing you like to cook.  That has been our saving grace. Fortunately there are a few farms around here that you can buy fresh produce from, and a couple of decent grocery stores that have a few veg*n selections (no Whole Foods, though!  :( )  However, I haven't found much in the way of vegetarian restaurants here.  We got excited to find a vegetarian menu at a nearby Vietnamese restaurant, until we found out that "vegetarian" means they use chicken broth instead of beef...  :err:

Good luck!

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Hello,

My husband is also a Marine. I am most a vegetarian. In other words I'd rather have veggies over meat most of the time but eat meat because my husband does. Anyway, I agree with your view on Jacksonville... I found your post by trying to find some Swiss Chard distributors in the area. No luck.
If you would like to get ahold of me my facebook is http://www.facebook.com/kimberleythornsberry87

Kimberley

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Hi Pheobe! Welcome! People like you who are making it work where it's not easy really inspire me. Luckily, VegWeb has over 13,000 recipes to keep you busy in Jacksonville! Oh, do you ever make it to Asheville? I hear there are amazing vegan eats there!

Thank you!
Vegweb certainly keeps me busy (when I get on). I've heard incredible things about Asheville... I'd love to attend an herbal medicine school there. One day we'll make the trip!

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Hi Phoebe!  We are in Virginia Beach which is better but not a lot!  It's weird but when we lived in Texas it was much easier and more accepted. I got very little flak there, but here it seems like most people are very set in their ways, which includes heavy consumption of meat.

I have actually switched to saying that I eat a plant based diet, or simply - I don't eat meat, rather than using the v word which seems to bring out a lot of righteous indignation in people.

I do know what you mean about your husband - I do feel sorry for mine because he definitely has it worse than me.  If a woman is a veg*n, it's just quirky, but if a man is veg*n, then he must be gay.  Ridiculous!

Good thing you like to cook.  That has been our saving grace. Fortunately there are a few farms around here that you can buy fresh produce from, and a couple of decent grocery stores that have a few veg*n selections (no Whole Foods, though!  :( )   However, I haven't found much in the way of vegetarian restaurants here.  We got excited to find a vegetarian menu at a nearby Vietnamese restaurant, until we found out that "vegetarian" means they use chicken broth instead of beef...  :err:

Good luck!

Oh goodness... I can imagine!
I usually say "I'm vegan" and then when I get a puzzled look, I resort to "a plant based diet".
Isn't that double standard absolutely ridiculous? One of my husbands co-workers asked him "How do you have sex?"
Because everyone knows meat has that special something that makes a man a "man".

I agree! I'm so proud of my cooking and I enjoy it immensely. We have tons of farms as well, and a pretty stocked farmer's market. You're suffering as much as me! I have Wilmington an hour away with a few yummy vegan things.

Good luck to you too!

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   My husband and I moved to Jacksonville, NC last October. He is in the marine corps., so choices were limited (non-existent). This town consists of pawn shops, strip clubs, steak houses, and tattoo parlors. Marines run the streets in giant, mud-slangin', confederate flag flying trucks with grins on their faces (if you're a woman, and you have breasts) and loud music.
   If one brings up veganism, vegetarianism, or anything involving NOT ingesting meat, one is stigmatized and often ridiculed. Imagine! A marine that doesn't eat meat... "GAY."

I guess what I'm trying to say is... That I'm so happy websites like this exist! I read posts and replies and I laugh and I google and I cry.

I just want to introduce myself, I'm Phoebe.
I love being a vegan. I love cooking vegan. I love talking about and advocating veganism. I am a passionate vegan and a loving mother of three non-human beings.

:)

Wow it's nice to see that there are other's in Jacksonville that are having the same problem as me! I am a Marine stationed at Camp Gieger. My wife and I just became vegan recently and our grocery prices just skyrocketed. It's hard here! I found your post on google when I was trying to locate somewhere near Jacksonville to do some vegan shopping cause it's just insane. I totally understand what your talking about, the other Marines are constantly making fun of me about becoming vegan hah. I don't care, I like the individuality and enjoy the challenge.

If you have had any luck since this post finding anywhere to do vegan shopping please share the info. :)

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Hi! We're stationed at Lejeune, and have been since May 2009. Not only am I nearly vegan, but I am a Nutritionist and this place is my worst nightmare! I'm from Phoenix, AZ (lots of veggie friendly food there!) and i describe the cuisine here as "if it isn't sweetened, deep fried or smothered in butter, it doesn't exist" Heaven forbid I ask for an unsweet tea, and no meat or dairy! I've honestly had people dumbfounded by the word dairy, like they have no clue what that is. I am on a quest right now to bring vegan friendly options to the commissary. Trick is that once I get it on the shelves it has to actually sell for them to continue purchasing it. Who knows... maybe we can start a revolution? :D

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Hey guys,

A fellow military wife here.  Just wanted to say I feel for you!  We are in California right now where being veg is easy (though I'm vegetarian, not vegan) so I can't complain.  I am from PA originally, though, and it was hard to be veg growing up.  Hopefully you will all become spectacular cooks and end up somewhere more veg-friendly when you move again!

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