would you eat eggs if you had your own chicken coop?
loved the chickens.
pet the chickens.
fed them good chicken stuff.
let them lead lovely chicken lives.
I have raised chickens most of my life, and they are my babies. They all have first, middle, and last names, and they are as precious to me as any other animals in my life. They live with my parents in the country, and I miss them daily. I have a chicken tattoo to always have them close to me. They're cared for, they get to live out long lives basking in the sun and taking dirt baths. My parents feed them scraps and leftovers, whole watermelons and corn and anything you could think of. They eat well, they exercise, and their eggs are not for me. I do not really see much ethically wrong with eating theses eggs--we do not have a rooster anymore, thus they are not fertilized, thus there will never be an embryo in the eggs. The eggs are laid and then the hennies forget about them.
That being said, I don't want to eat the eggs. After not eating eggs for a while, they were not appetizing to me anymore. Also, I think it is a slippery slope. If I eat my chickens' eggs, then do I eat the eggs of the farmer down the road? What if I don't know their ethical practices? What if they kill the chickens after they are 2 years old and their laying habits start to dwindle? What if they treat their hens like commodities, or at least commodity producing entities instead of beings with feelings a life of its own? If I eat that farmer's eggs, do I eat eggs out at a restaurant, with sketchy origins? Maybe the restaurant says they are "free range." Will I talk myself into thinking that is it's okay to eat those eggs, even though I truly know nothing of them? I think it's just asking to be in the situation down the road to make poor decisions that will adversely affect hens. I will personally pass.
I think if it were me and the chickens were laying the eggs anyway (granted, I know very little about chickens), I would at least try to find some way to use them. I mean, I absolutely hate the way eggs taste and always have, but I would see if maybe a friend of mine wanted them or, if nothing else, I would use them in baked goods and give those away or something. So, no, I wouldn't eat them just because I don't like the taste, but I wouldn't let them go to waste either, because I believe that's a slippery slope too many veggies start down. I think it's better to use an animal product than let good food go to waste, if it comes down to that...
Also, I think it is a slippery slope. If I eat my chickens' eggs, then do I eat the eggs of the farmer down the road? What if I don't know their ethical practices? What if they kill the chickens after they are 2 years old and their laying habits start to dwindle? What if they treat their hens like commodities, or at least commodity producing entities instead of beings with feelings a life of its own? If I eat that farmer's eggs, do I eat eggs out at a restaurant, with sketchy origins? Maybe the restaurant says they are "free range." Will I talk myself into thinking that is it's okay to eat those eggs, even though I truly know nothing of them? I think it's just asking to be in the situation down the road to make poor decisions that will adversely affect hens. I will personally pass.
this does not answer my question.
a slippery slope?
not eating the eggs because you lost the desire for eggs is one thing. but not eating the eggs from chickens that you love, given all kinds of names, pet daily, give them little chicken baths, etc... because it's a slippery slope? i would think you would be a little stronger than that.
All the time there are stories of people that were vegan/vegetarian and started eating animal products again. How do you think this happens? You think one day they're vegan and the next day they're full fledged American diet, sausage in the morning, McDonalds for lunch and steak at dinner? No. People slowly let animal products slip back into their diets. First they try a nibble of "free range, poetry read, happy meat" from someone else's plate, then it progresses from there. If someone can start making excuses to eat eggs, then they can start making excuses to eat all sorts of products, no matte how unhappy the animal was before it died.
I don't want to get wrapped up in an argument, but I slid down that slope. I was vegan, but after I moved from Colorado (where it was easy) to Chicago (where it was damned near impossible to find food), I did slide back to just being veggie (but still didn't eat meat). Of course, that was years ago before the internet made it easy to get food online, before they had so many options in an ordinary grocery store, and before vegweb!! I went back to being vegan as soon as it was reasonably possible.
As for eggs, I wouldn't eat them no matter what. I would find a use for them, perhaps feed them to my cats/dog. But since the animal cruelty angle isn't an issue here, I fall back on the health one. I don't believe it is at all healthy to eat eggs, especially when there are other options out there that work as well, taste as good, and won't coat my arteries with cholesterol. Even if the cow was free to romp through the forest and only gave milk when the calf didn't want it, I wouldn't drink it for the same reason. No matter how great the animals are treated (which is often not nearly as well as agribusinesses would like you to believe), I don't believe animal products in any way, shape, or form are healthy or necessary in human diets.
Milk from cows is different from eggs from chickens. A cow has to give birth to produce milk. Hens lay eggs no matter what as part of their ovulation.
Sorry I wasn't clear. I do know the difference between where eggs come from and where milk comes from. I also know that dairy farmers will swear that the cows want/need to be milked because it's uncomfortable for them to have full udders and hens don't care about the eggs once they are laid. Regardless, that wasn't my point. My point was that no matter how willingly an animal gives up their "animal products", by whichever method they were created by the animal, I don't believe they are healthy to eat. So barring an issue with animal cruelty, I fall back on a health issue.
no offense. that is rediculous.
if i was looking for a reason to eat dead carcus... i could find it in about 1.5 seconds. bacon tasts f'n good. capital g. and i have no will power.
but, i'm not looking for a reason to eat dead animal. what they do to chickens is beyond words.
if eating an egg (from a chicken you raise in a pimp coop) makes you want to kill animals... you should just go eat the freegin' meat.
am i wrong here?
I guess this is where we differ. I don't want an excuse to eat meat. How in the hell did you get that I want to eat meat? I answered your question about how the "slippery slope" of veganism works, and all of a sudden I want to eat meat? I've lived far more than half my life not eating meat, so a egg is not going to change my mind. I was making the case for how people slip from veganism/vegetarianism. I have no interest in eating meat, and I have no clue how "f'n good" bacon tastes. So, that's your burden to bear, I guess. If you are asking for responses to your ridiculous question, then you are going to get honest answers. Why are you asking whether it's okay, and then disagreeing with everyone that answers? If you want to eat eggs, then eat the damned eggs and shut up about it on the boards. If you want to have a real discussion, then open your eyes and your mind a sliver. And what the fuck is a "pimp coop?"
You clearly are not trying to even have a discussion, so you can rant with yourself all you want. If you are *this* close to eating meat, then I don't really know what to tell you. I'm not tempted, I haven't been tempted in years and years, and this this thread suddenly became about something other than eating eggs. If you don't like the answers people give you, then why bother?
longer_look... get over the "ethical" eggs... eggs are bad for you, you don't need to buy and rasie chickens just so u can eat these "ethical" eggs... u say ur a bit of a "fatty" anyway LOL so screw the eggs stay vegan... keep your arteries clear... i agree with veganrun in the fact that if u start making excuses to eat animal products the excuses will keep coming... yes animal products taste good, almost in an addictive way so i plan to steer clear for good
sure buddy... lard ass