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To Vegans and Vegetarians.......... thoughts on the "Raw Food diet"?

I was wondering what all you vegans and vegetarians who eat cooked food think about the raw food diet. I am not referring to a raw meat diet ("primal diet") but rather a raw vegan/vegetarian(raw honey/raw dairy) diet?

I was vegetarian/vegan for at least 3.5 years before I heard about the raw food diet and once I started learning I didn't stop and now I am a raw vegetarian (since I eat raw honey and once in a great while raw cheese). I have gone to a raw food support group in the area at a health food store and I suggested reaching out to the vegetarians and vegans on meetup and the leader of the group said she has gotten to some arguments with cooked food vegheads.

I was wondering just people's thoughts on a raw food diet, I must admit the first I was exposed to raw food diet was a video on youtube with this pale lady making onion bread in a dehydrator and I thought it was so stupid I was just like 'use a oven!!!'

But now I eat much simpler than I did when I was vegan and have gone through some noticeable changes like my depression I have suffered with for so long is gone a least more manageable, I have more energy since I used to be kind of fatigued and lazy, I can think so much clearer, and so many other little things that I just love. But as a note I don't eat 100% raw probably 80-99% and I don't follow 80-10-10.

So what do you think?

tweety here is something i found similar about the B12

http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/vitaminb12

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wait, so the only way we get vit B12 is from a non-vegan source?

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wait, so the only way we get vit B12 is from a non-vegan source?

no, b12 s made by bacteria.

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ohhhh ok, got it. thanks!!

sorry for being ign'ant. lol

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http://dietary-supplements.info.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminb12.asp
http://www.veganoutreach.org/health/b12letter.html
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/b12.htm
Here are a few website.  Veganhealth also has quite a bit of information.  There are a few longterm studies in Europe that compare the death rates of vegetarians that eat a healthy diet and those that include some meat in their diet.  I will try to find them in the next few days.  NIH site is more thorough in explaining the connection between B12 (and folate) deficiency and high homocysteine levels and the strong correlation between homocysteine levels and heart disease.  It also points out how high folate levels can mask B12 deficiency for years.

It seems like some people are emplying that the need to supplement B12 is anti-vegetarian.  It's not.  I just wanted to point out the dangers of not supplementing vitamin B12.  Also, I am not trying to fear monger.  A whole foods vegan diet can be the healthiest diet, if all nutrients are adequetly incorporated.

This is all I am going to say on the subject on this thread.  I don't want to distract from the original topic.

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I don't particularly mind supplementing my diet with some B12 fortified foods... but I do find myself wishing, probably just for my own aesthetics, that there was something more 'close to nature' than synthetic supplements.

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I don't particularly mind supplementing my diet with some B12 fortified foods... but I do find myself wishing, probably just for my own aesthetics, that there was something more 'close to nature' than synthetic supplements.

word up!

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I don't particularly mind supplementing my diet with some B12 fortified foods... but I do find myself wishing, probably just for my own aesthetics, that there was something more 'close to nature' than synthetic supplements.

I'm not sure about this (as I am warm and toasty on my couch and the kitchen is very far away), but isn't nutritional yeast a pretty good source of B12?  I don't really like the stuff and it makes me gassy (sorry if that's TMI), but I will usually sprinkle a tsp on a pb&j just to get a little extra of those wonderful vitamins, since that way I can't really taste it.

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Ohhhhh, STORM, awesome pictures.

That looks so good. 

I want to eat that!!!

I have tried the raw food thing but it is so EXPENSIVE, all that fresh produce and raw nuts, costs a fortune.

But on the other hand, could probably save on electricity bills.

And as far as the "primal" diet of raw meat.  Whoever things that raw meat is what "primal" humans used to eat is out of their minds.  Anybody who looks into it even a little will find out quickly that humans were HERBAVORES until about 75,000 years ago when a great super volcano errupted in Sumantra nearly wiping out human food source and the human race itself.  If humans hadn't developed the ability to eat meat we would have gone extinct, true, but we evolved as herbavores, not meat eaters!!!!  I am so sick of that myth and how many people actually believe it!

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Anybody who looks into it even a little will find out quickly that humans were HERBAVORES until about 75,000 years ago when a great super volcano errupted in Sumantra nearly wiping out human food source and the human race itself.  If humans hadn't developed the ability to eat meat we would have gone extinct, true, but we evolved as herbavores, not meat eaters!!!!  I am so sick of that myth and how many people actually believe it!

ummm... not true, we have completely different digestive systems than herbivores. we can't get enough energy from just grass and the like (which is what herbivores eat)... we are frugivores.

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Herbivorous just means we eat plant matter. We're not ruminants, though.

Although I think of humans as omnivores, because we're quite capable of eating animal produce or not, as we choose... I don't agree that we're 'meant' to be fruigivores. We just have the option of making that choice.

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