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Stereotypical hippies.

There are a bunch of damn hippies at my school that go around slapping peace sign stickers on stuff whenever they get the chance. Then the go and drive to Hartford (CT) and buy "the good stuff" from drug dealers, which helps "promote peace and expand minds." Then they smoke that shit and go and eat a bunch of McDonald's "food." I know 2 girls off the top of my head that party often, and have had abortions. I don't know what is more sickening, their actions, or the fact that they are so open and laid back about it.

The way I see it, buying drugs from drug dealers supports gang violence. Smoking shit makes you weak and apathetic, and hardly "expands minds." Eating McDonald's... speaks for itself on this website. And abortion as a form of birth control is just fucking appalling.

All this stuff adds up to what I could hardly call a peaceful life. Granted there are chill hippies out there but most of them just piss me off.

Any of you guys feel the same way? Oh and by the way, did I mention that they smell bad and have scummy hair...

Theres this huge scene in Lansing (a city I go to for shows a lot) of hippies and crusties that just bathe in drugs and all fuck each other. Disgusting really...
I guess you could just call them burnouts but here the literal hippie scene is hard drugs and not knowing what they stand for.
That really has nothing to do with veganism though, just drugs and a bad scene that a lot of kids get caught up in because they don't know any better.

I'm vegan but I can't stand...

That stereo type that all vegans are bland un-energetic people!

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I'm vegan but I can't stand...

That stereo type that all vegans are bland un-energetic people!

i find the opposite to be true. everyone thinks i am so interesting, but i'm really just a boring 'ol person.

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...vegan police (both vegan and non-vegan vegan police).
...ignorant vegetarians (oh im a vegetarian, but i eat chicken and fish, for example).
...snobby self-righteous people in general.

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I'm vegan but I can't stand...

That stereo type that all vegans are bland un-energetic people!

i find the opposite to be true. everyone thinks i am so interesting, but i'm really just a boring 'ol person.

Haha I mean even if you are, I'm sure its not because of your lack of animal products!  ::)

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Theres this huge scene in Lansing (a city I go to for shows a lot) of hippies and crusties that just bathe in drugs and all fuck each other. Disgusting really...
I guess you could just call them burnouts but here the literal hippie scene is hard drugs and not knowing what they stand for.
That really has nothing to do with veganism though, just drugs and a bad scene that a lot of kids get caught up in because they don't know any better

Where I'm from, Humboldt County, hippies know entirely what they stand for.  They tree sit to stop illegal logging (logging over the limit, on too steep of slope, too near a waterway).  They help schools start organic gardens so students can see how plants grow and get excited about healthy food.  They teach classes on straw bale construction and how to make thermal curtains, reusable menstrual pads, and how to knit.  

Your hippie scene isn't populated with hippies - they're partiers who are re-inacting their interpretation of what they think Haight-Ashbury was like 40 years ago.  Actual, real hippies aren't like that.  

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I mean, I wouldn't call what you're talking about a hippie, I would refer to someone like that as an activist. Its not like "The hippies are changing the world". Its like "The activists are changing the world". Its possible to be stoked on organic food growing and environmentalism without being a hippie.
When we call the burnouts hippies, we call them as such because we know thats what the whole 60's height ashbury thing became. Hippies weren't creating change, yippies were...

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Theres this huge scene in Lansing (a city I go to for shows a lot) of hippies and crusties that just bathe in drugs and all fuck each other. Disgusting really...
I guess you could just call them burnouts but here the literal hippie scene is hard drugs and not knowing what they stand for.

I'm vegan but I can't stand...

That stereo type that all vegans are bland un-energetic people!

yeah the first thing you said is basically what im dealing with. these people have no respect.

and as for the bland un-energetic thing, its probably because your edge, not because your vegan. I get that shit all the time, especially from the scummy burnout kids. But generally i get pretty good feedback about being vegan, people think its interesting.

"Oh you dont drink or smoke? What the hell do you do? You must not have any fun."
Oh Im sorry, I didnt realize killing brain cells and puking on my friends was fun. I ditch my self-respect and get right on that.

stay true brothaa  

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"Oh you dont drink or smoke? What the hell do you do? You must not have any fun."
Oh Im sorry, I didnt realize killing brain cells and puking on my friends was fun. I ditch my self-respect and get right on that.

:-D :-D :-D    how you just put it makes more sense then most of those anti drugs ads they show.

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Theres this huge scene in Lansing (a city I go to for shows a lot) of hippies and crusties that just bathe in drugs and all fuck each other. Disgusting really...
I guess you could just call them burnouts but here the literal hippie scene is hard drugs and not knowing what they stand for.

I'm vegan but I can't stand...

That stereo type that all vegans are bland un-energetic people!

"Oh you dont drink or smoke? What the hell do you do? You must not have any fun."
Oh Im sorry, I didnt realize killing brain cells and puking on my friends was fun. I ditch my self-respect and get right on that.

stay true brothaa  

everything has positive and negative aspects about it. I don't think that drugs are the only enjoyment to be had in life, but i do think that they can be a pleasant experience. Drugs/drinking may sometimes  have a negative impact on your body, but they also may have a positive impact on your mind/mood/experience. To some people(myself included), it may be worth the trade off to drink or do certain drugs in moderation sometimes. I don't think that means that I don't have self-respect. I think it just means that I have a different opinion and outlook on the subject than you do.

Personally, I think that everyone should be open-minded enough to try something like shrooms or acid at least once. It is not really a drug like meth or heroin or anything. It can be an interesting and thoughtful experience and is certainly not an addiction like other drugs can be.

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No, they're drugs. Just because something's natural doesn't make it less noxious.

On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be any tolerance or toxicity (aside from interactions, adverse reactions) associated with LSD. However, you can get flashback hallucinations years later, well after stopping use. o_O

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I didn't read everyone's post (past page 1), but:

What I cannot stand is the trendiness of "peace" signs on EVERYTHING.
same with "go green" shirts.

the thing about it that irks me is the people who wear peace/green attire..
it's generally girls who go around talking rude about everyone and who get into enormous amounts of fights.
or you see them eating at mcDonalds.

I'm definitely taking advice from those people.

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Personally, I think that everyone should be open-minded enough to try something like shrooms or acid at least once. It is not really a drug like meth or heroin or anything. It can be an interesting and thoughtful experience and is certainly not an addiction like other drugs can be.

Haha I dont even know what to say about this.

they also may have a positive impact on your mind/mood/experience.

Yeah just ask Ozzy or Kurt Cobain. Or even the poor girl thats crashed while driving under the influence a couple weeks ago at my school. She is still in a coma but Im sure the drugs were really enhancing her experience at the time. That being said, I hope to god she gets better, she is a good person.

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I don't get why people think the threshold of all things acceptable is what they, themselves, do and that everything outside that is intolerable.  It's just a repackaged Billy Graham message.

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hm....okay *wades into the pool*

I could be wrong, but what I believe gay_unicorn666 was trying to say with the marijuana/acid vs meth and heroin is they are on separate levels when it comes to 'harm' to the body.

This is how I've come to look at/perceive nearly all things I use/interact with/observe: they are all tools.

Definition of tool: anything used as a means of accomplishing a task or purpose
link 5th definition

Tools can be abused/mishandled and you can get hurt if you don't read the manual and/or observe others using or being around them. Some are more dangerous than others and take a higher degree of care when using or being around them. For some the risk outweighs the benefits of using them.

Computers are tools.
Exercise is a tool.
Food is a tool.
Drugs are tools.

Really, everything is a tool. And as with all tools, they require the proper amount of care, education and safe guards for optimal use.

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Big props to hh and hanshi for saying exactly what I wanted to say, with more eloquence than my current state of frustration could allow.

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Sorry I grew up in a neighborhood where my sis and I couldnt play outside because of gang violence. I learned quickly that most of the bad things that happened in the area I lived were a result of drug dealing. Thankfully my mother is in a much better economic situation now and we live in a better area, but I hate how I now live with all these kids that are better off and can afford to drive to neighborhoods like the one I lived in and buy drugs so they can be all - grateful dead lets chill the fuck out and smoke a doobie.  They tend to forget all the things that drug dealing is connected to like prostitution, dog fighting, guns, and addiction.
yeah i dont like drugs but i have lost people i love, and im not the only one. i think it is ridiculous that this shit happens so people can party or think they are being spiritual or whatever their excuse is.

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I would think that it would piss you off more when punk / faux punk kids party.

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Sorry I grew up in a neighborhood where my sis and I couldnt play outside because of gang violence. I learned quickly that most of the bad things that happened in the area I lived were a result of drug dealing. Thankfully my mother is in a much better economic situation now and we live in a better area, but I hate how I now live with all these kids that are better off and can afford to drive to neighborhoods like the one I lived in and buy drugs so they can be all - grateful dead lets chill the fuck out and smoke a doobie.  They tend to forget all the things that drug dealing is connected to like prostitution, dog fighting, guns, and addiction.
yeah i dont like drugs but i have lost people i love, and im not the only one. i think it is ridiculous that this shit happens so people can party or think they are being spiritual or whatever their excuse is.

I moved a lot because my mother and eventually most of my family was doing drugs. I had barely any friends, and learned, like you, how harsh this world can be. I saw my best friend shot from my window when I was just a small child. I would be the one who got the bruises from the drug induced rages my mother was in. I got kicked on, spat at, slapped, and very rarely heard I love you from my mother. I grew up in a very broken home, I dealt with depression. My life only got better when my mother finally went to prison for the latter half of my teen years and my great grandma raised me.

I don't care, to be frank, what anyone else thinks on the subject of drugs. Anyone that does them, buys them, supports legalizing them, or sells them is a retard. You can flame/hate me all you want but at the end of the day, I still think you're an idiot. And that is just me being honest!.

ps... for you drug addicts that might be reading this post saying "pft obviously she was doing the "bad" drugs" My mother over the course of my lifetime (to my knowledge) has mainly smoked pot. It wasn't until I was 9-10ish that she did other drugs. From their it quickly spiraled into cocaine, lsd, crack, heroine, and finally meth. My mother went crazy on pot! Pot is not the "good drug" it is bad for you, my husband 8 years after smoking pot in college has a hard time remembering stuff because of it. but then again if you get harmed from your stupidity, I don't feel sorry for you.

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Sorry I grew up in a neighborhood where my sis and I couldnt play outside because of gang violence. I learned quickly that most of the bad things that happened in the area I lived were a result of drug dealing. Thankfully my mother is in a much better economic situation now and we live in a better area, but I hate how I now live with all these kids that are better off and can afford to drive to neighborhoods like the one I lived in and buy drugs so they can be all - grateful dead lets chill the fuck out and smoke a doobie.  They tend to forget all the things that drug dealing is connected to like prostitution, dog fighting, guns, and addiction.
yeah i dont like drugs but i have lost people i love, and im not the only one. i think it is ridiculous that this shit happens so people can party or think they are being spiritual or whatever their excuse is.

Maybe if drugs like marijuana were legal, we wouldn't have these problems of gang violence and drug dealing. Do you see any gang violence caused by buying and selling alchohol or cigarettes? they are both drugs that are legal.
Just sayin.

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Yeah... pot is definitely not innocuous. My dad now has emphysema and memory problems from it. If you think about it, no matter what's in the pipe, you're inhaling smoke.

I disagree about legalization though... at least with marijuana. While marijuana is certainly not good for a person who doesn't need it for a (actual) medical condition, the fact that the plant can and will grow pretty much anywhere makes it difficult to control. Also, I think part of the problem with the crime + drugs is that people are going to jail (or prison) for non-violent drug offenses... so users are "mixing with the wrong crowd."
My mom was also pretty unstable while using alcohol, and later while using vicodin (even though for legit reasons), but I don't think either should be illegal. Tobacco is especially harmful and addictive, and whether that's reasonable to illegalize... I don't know. The public doesn't favor it anymore, but I think it's pretty difficult to ban an easily occurring plant.

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