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Going through a vegan "PHASE"...

I'm not one to get too shook up when people dont agree with my opinions, but there is NOTHING more irritating to me than telling someone I'm vegan and hearing them respond "Oh! I went through a vegan/vegetarian phase too!"

PHASE? What the hell does that mean? Am I over reacting, or is this as condescending as I'm taking it?

Imagine saying to a gay person, "Oh, I went through a gay phase too!"... on second thought, I'm sure they get that all the time. Gah, people are so ignorant.
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It's not you.  People just don't understand, or they do and are just trying to hide it somehow.  I just let people talk and try not to take it to personally

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well, if you are gay, you are always gay.  If you are vegan, you can go back to eating meat and dairy.  I just don't let that stuff get me mad.  

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I hope that if you're gay and someone says you're just going through a "phase", that you punch them in the face.
I know that wasn't the point of your thread, but....just thinking about that made me mad!

But unfortunately, there are a lot of people who go veg*n, then go back to being omni....annoying, but what can ya do?

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Well, I have a gay friend and she asked me about becoming vegan...

I gave her my whole life story about growing up in a meat eating family, telling my parents when I was 4 years old (and had never even heard the word "vegetarian") that I didn't want to eat meat anymore.

Eating meat my whole life even though deep down I never felt right about it, and finally having the courage a few years ago to listen to what my brain had been telling me all along.

She said my story sounded almost exactly like hers. So I realize the major differences but I still think they are very relate-able.

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everyone i know asks me how long i think this will last.

i always tell them that i don't know.

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Condescension is one of the many tools used by omnis, to try to make themselves feel better about the hideous things they chew up & swallow. Roll your eyes as needed, and set phasers on ignore!

OR, smile sweetly & say, 'Yeah, I understand where you're coming from -- I went through an obnoxious phase myself.'  ::)

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Condescension is one of the many tools used by omnis, to try to make themselves feel better about the hideous things they chew up & swallow. Roll your eyes as needed, and set phasers on ignore!

OR, smile sweetly & say, 'Yeah, I understand where you're coming from -- I went through an obnoxious phase myself.'  ::)

totally awesome!

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I heard that once . . . about 10 years ago.  Lol.  The guy indicated it was just a thing young people do to be different.  It is sad, but a lot of people do switch back and forth.  People say a lot of ignormant stuff, so I wouldn't let it bug you.  Deep down they probably regret going back or at least they are just trying to make conversation, just like when they say something about only eating chicken.  If they ask how long you think it will last, maybe tell them something cute like you have no idea how long you will live.  

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tell them something cute like you have no idea how long you will live. 

haha I like it!

Reminds me of when people ask me (And this happens more than you would think) what I would do in the event of an apocalypse if there were no more grocery stores. I always answer... Ill keep eating things that are growing out of the ground... where in heck are you going to get chicken nuggets?"

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I always hate it when people ask about what I'd eat in a survival situation.  People have eaten all kinds of crazy things when starving.  Some has resorted to canabalism or other such things.  What one would do to survive has nothing to do with what we eat on a daily basis.  I always turn to around and ask them what they'd eat.  Unless they are a hunter, they are in the same boat I'm in for the most part. 

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Ugh, so annoying! I generally take it as an insult because veganism is such a huge part of my life and belief system. When someone says something like that its like their insulting my beliefs and that shit doesn't work with me. Sometimes I think about the possibility of people just being ignorant but seriously we have mastered going into space, eradicating diseases and creating super technologies but people still can't understand a plant based diet?  I first went through this with my parents who thought it was a phase and I literally ate pb&j sandwiches for lk a year because they wouldn't get me veg food. Now, they understand better and even try to make sure there is something vegan for me to eat when I attend family gatherings. As for anyone who was veg and went back to being an omni... I just don't get it, obviously vegan was just a diet for them and nothing more. Since when do people choose a veg diet to be accepted by peers better? I don't know anyone else who is veg. End story if someone says something like that to I'm done with the conversation and them. I have no room for idiocy and closed mindedness in my life

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Show of hands: who's had this conversation with anyone while starving in a primeval forest with no hope of rescue? anyone? anyone? Thought not... what a bunk argument! Reality: in a 'survival situation,' I'm gonna do what most folks would do: whatever I have to, to the best of my ability, to stay alive (or keep my loved ones alive). I'll eat plants first, of course, but would not exclude insects, earthworms, bats, dung beetles, birds, mammals... if my (or my family's) survival depends on my eating the fellow-human asking me about this... well, then, I guess they'd better go on & run.

(kidding a little... but only a little!)

Now, here's my question: SO FUCKING WHAT?!! Unless and until this situation arises, it's a totally mute point! Killing in the absence of need is killing in the absence of need. I live in a world where 'survival situations' are NOT typically an issue, regarding food choices... and so does the carcass-muncher asking this inane question. So let's just stick with reality, shall we?

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Show of hands: who's had this conversation with anyone while starving in a primeval forest with no hope of rescue? anyone? anyone? Thought not... what a bunk argument! Reality: in a 'survival situation,' I'm gonna do what most folks would do: whatever I have to, to the best of my ability, to stay alive (or keep my loved ones alive). I'll eat plants first, of course, but would not exclude insects, earthworms, bats, dung beetles, birds, mammals... if my (or my family's) survival depends on my eating the fellow-human asking me about this... well, then, I guess they'd better go on & run.

(kidding a little... but only a little!)

Now, here's my question: SO FUCKING WHAT?!! Unless and until this situation arises, it's a totally mute moot point! Killing in the absence of need is killing in the absence of need. I live in a world where 'survival situations' are NOT typically an issue, regarding food choices... and so does the carcass-muncher asking this inane question. So let's just stick with reality, shall we?

fyp.

people give me that survival argument all the time.  i say, "whelp... if i'm about to starve to death... yes, i'll eat anything in front of me.  if i was a caveman... probably would hunt animals too.  guess what?  i'm not.  i don't have to make those choices...  and neither do you.... murderer."

that always goes well.

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Show of hands: who's had this conversation with anyone while starving in a primeval forest with no hope of rescue? anyone? anyone? Thought not... what a bunk argument! Reality: in a 'survival situation,' I'm gonna do what most folks would do: whatever I have to, to the best of my ability, to stay alive (or keep my loved ones alive). I'll eat plants first, of course, but would not exclude insects, earthworms, bats, dung beetles, birds, mammals... if my (or my family's) survival depends on my eating the fellow-human asking me about this... well, then, I guess they'd better go on & run.

(kidding a little... but only a little!)

Now, here's my question: SO FUCKING WHAT?!! Unless and until this situation arises, it's a totally mute moot point! Killing in the absence of need is killing in the absence of need. I live in a world where 'survival situations' are NOT typically an issue, regarding food choices... and so does the carcass-muncher asking this inane question. So let's just stick with reality, shall we?

fyp.

people give me that survival argument all the time.  i say, "whelp... if i'm about to starve to death... yes, i'll eat anything in front of me.  if i was a caveman... probably would hunt animals too.  guess what?  i'm not.  i don't have to make those choices...  and neither do you.... murderer."

that always goes well.

1) right -- moot -- sorry! drinking.  :-[  (but happy in my linguistic errority!)
2) your debate technique with omnis amuses me. Good work!

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I believe when I was in high school one of my friends was trying to convince me to try veal since I never had it before going vegetarian. "You know, because you have to try everything once." I think my response was something about "well, I"ve never slaughtered a kindergartner either. We should do that after dinner because, you know, you need to try everything once."

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Courth -->   ;)b

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Friends (Joey gets "moot" wrong)
Joey:  It's a moo point
Rachael:  A moo point?
Joey:  Yeah.  Like a cow's opinion.  It just doesn't matter.  It's moo.

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I don't discuss veganism much, so I like it when someone has a whole sentence that has anything to do with veganism.  I take it as permission to talk it up.  Sucks to their assmar if they didn't mean it that way.

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Friends (Joey gets "moot" wrong)
Joey:  It's a moo point
Rachael:  A moo point?
Joey:  Yeah.  Like a cow's opinion.  It just doesn't matter.  It's moo.

HH, we've had our differences in the past... but... that's funny. Good reference!  ;D

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;)b

Only our opinions in Food Fight.  I've never had issue with you you.  I like you.

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Aww... I like you too. I'm totally extending you a cyberhug, right now... tho, truthfully, that could just be the Merlot talking (slow Friday night, lol!)...agreed: food fight is its own thing -- like outer space or dentist waiting rooms, only way more interesting.  :)

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everyone i know asks me how long i think this will last.

i always tell them that i don't know.

answer: FOR-EV-ER
bitch please

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