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GENERAL OPINIONS ON PETA???

I'm very curious. Personally, I think that they make the veg community look bad.

i think they reflect one of many voices in the animal rights/vegetarian community.  i don't always agree with their methods but i rarely disagree w/their cause. 

they give of their own time and work tirelessly for ultimately, the betterment of animals - hard for me to find issues w/this.

i like to think/hope that most rational people can know that PETA is, but one of many voices - not "the" voice.  I'll bet you this, when PETA decides to set some company in their cross hairs - said company probably shakes in their boots - so perhaps there is a method to their madness :). 

Every now and again i'll hear of a radio station doing harm to an animal to "protest" PETA - i don't often get angry often but i really detest sh*t like that.  At least have the balls to say that you're a spineless gutless coward that has no problems hurting a defenseless animal - instead of projecting the blame onto PETA - please!

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I do not like the way PETA uses mainstream beauty standards to exploit and objectify women, but unfortunately in our society sex sells... even vegetables, apparently. But boo to them to call out the exploitation of one creature by doing it to another.

I also think it's ridiculous how they get one celebrity to say something like 'I wouldn't wear my dog!' when that person still eats meat, probably wears leather (that's imported from China, so hey, it could be A dog), and doesn't really make any effort to end animal suffering. But that's great that they wouldn't skin their own companion animal... Like so many other people...

But, even though I do not like them, I do like how they can usually target a company and get them to adhere to better standards. I know they got a couple places to say they would go fur free in less that 3 months of campaigning. Their petsmart or petco (can't remember which, and I don't shop at either) agreement disappointed me though. I feel like they could have gotten better standards for treatment and condition of the animals; I think all they agreed on was something about how their birds were kept.

I like COK better. Hey, and speaking of which, you guys should all go here:
http://www.dunkincruelty.com/act-now
and fill it out, asking Dunkin' Doughnuts to stop using animal products in their doughnuts. COK just recently started this campaign and I'm excited for them. I've been a supporter since the beginning when they were running it out of a basement in 1995.

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Well, when there are MUCH more important issues in the world for our President to worry over and PETA throws a fit because he killed a fly..that just about sums up how silly and irrational they are. I support their concept but can not support their methods or the issues they latch onto.

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They are an awful organisation who as has been stated, objectify women, and impose their own standards of what a beautiful woman should look like (generally this entails one that doesn't wear many clothes and is shaven, as well as being relativly* skinny/slim).

*spelling?

They make animal rights a laughing stock.
They lie, a lot.
They are looked upon as the standard setters of who animals should be treated, and if anyone comes along with more logic they are made out to be an extrimest because peta don't agree with them.
They even had a list up, maybe still do, of "accidentally vegetarian" products, of which some contained geletain, their responce was that "the little ingrediants don't count".

They promote being judgemental instead of being supportive, and whilst I would happily support peta if they were to try to be more supportive than judgemental, they do not go down this route. They alienate those who eat meat for the most part.

Whilst they do do some good I doubt that that outweights the bad they do.

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It's not so much that I disagree with PETA.
I think it's terrible that people assume every vegan's beliefs are aligned with them.

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I really hate it when people say that PETA stands for people eating tasty animals.  You aren't original or funny.

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Exactly! They have a pretty decent message, one that I agree with on quite a few points, but their way of going about doing things makes me sick to my stomach. I have a friend who told me that PETA members once showed up to a festival she was doing and let all the farm animals into the wild. Farm Animals? In The Wild? Where they'll almost certianly get eaten or starve to death. How ethical of them. The make all vegans look like fanatical idiots. Of course, the crazies in every group have a tendency to do that.

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Exactly! They have a pretty decent message, one that I agree with on quite a few points, but their way of going about doing things makes me sick to my stomach. I have a friend who told me that PETA members once showed up to a festival she was doing and let all the farm animals into the wild. Farm Animals? In The Wild? Where they'll almost certianly get eaten or starve to death. How ethical of them. The make all vegans look like fanatical idiots. Of course, the crazies in every group have a tendency to do that.

I can only presume that:
the animals were "insured"
they were replaced
and that more animals if that is the case will have been bred to serve the purpose that the now, free, animals were serving. I don't see how that in anyway would or could help the situation.

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Exactly! They have a pretty decent message, one that I agree with on quite a few points, but their way of going about doing things makes me sick to my stomach. I have a friend who told me that PETA members once showed up to a festival she was doing and let all the farm animals into the wild. Farm Animals? In The Wild? Where they'll almost certianly get eaten or starve to death. How ethical of them. The make all vegans look like fanatical idiots. Of course, the crazies in every group have a tendency to do that.

Word. They are totally out of touch and live in a world where whatever they do is "ethical treatment" of animals. Here in Europe they mostly put up posters, and release animals into a hostile environment. I always wonder where all that donated money actually goes.

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I just very much dislike the fact that when the majority of people notice my veganism, they relate me to PETA. Which of course bothers me. I've heard that they euthanize a lot of the animals they rescue? I haven't really looked into that, to be fair. But I do support their cause, but I think that they need to find a different way to achieve it.

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Not only do they euthanize some animals, but they also support killing pitbulls. I don't feel like searching for the article right now, but you can google it, look for Ingrid Newkirk's letter about pitbull extermination. It's kind of shocking.
I hate PETA. Hate, hate hate.

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do not like!

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When I got PETA mail seeking donations, I responded by sticking this in the organization's donations envelope.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8255324

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When I got PETA mail seeking donations, I responded by sticking this in the organization's donations envelope.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8255324

i could be wrong, but i think we'd be hard pressed to find any charity organization w/o some type of black mark against it - because ideally no matter how idealogic the goals of the organization may be - it's going to be made up of humans, which are fallible by nature.  Further, this goes all the way back to 2005, is that one instance truly reflective of what PETA is all about? 

The article is also sort of confusing (or maybe i'm just not following correctly).  If i'm understanding correctly, people from PETA picked up the animals (while still alive) from the shelter - and then euthanized the animals at the PETA shelter? Why were the animals euthanized? How long after they were picked up before they were euthanized - same day? weeks? months?  The article seems to have some grey areas.

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It's not so much that I disagree with PETA.
I think it's terrible that people assume every vegan's beliefs are aligned with them.

This is my problem.  I feel like every cause/belief has extremists.  Unfortunately, the extremists are usually the ones people notice. 

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I don't like extremism of any form. PETA falls into this category for me.

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PETA cares more about exploiting women than helping animals.

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When I got PETA mail seeking donations, I responded by sticking this in the organization's donations envelope.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8255324

i could be wrong, but i think we'd be hard pressed to find any charity organization w/o some type of black mark against it - because ideally no matter how idealogic the goals of the organization may be - it's going to be made up of humans, which are fallible by nature.  Further, this goes all the way back to 2005, is that one instance truly reflective of what PETA is all about? 

The article is also sort of confusing (or maybe i'm just not following correctly).  If i'm understanding correctly, people from PETA picked up the animals (while still alive) from the shelter - and then euthanized the animals at the PETA shelter? Why were the animals euthanized? How long after they were picked up before they were euthanized - same day? weeks? months?  The article seems to have some grey areas.

In this case, it's not just PETA. Many US state-run shelters euthanize pitbulls and American bulldogs when they come in, because of the dog-fighting rings. They don't know if the person adopting is really going to give the dog a good home, or put it right back in the pit. And of course the agression issues associated with an ex-fighting dog who has been trained to the pit.

I'm not saying mass euthanisation on the basis of breed is good. I'm just saying it happens a lot.

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I'm going to have to echo a general disdain for PETA. Their methods I find abhorrent and the overall message a poor choice to accomplish the goal, which one would think would be ending the cruel treatment of animals. Good initial idea, horrible implementation and in general a bad spokes-group. I feel they are directly responsible for giving vegetarians and vegans a bad reputation with their illogical, combative approach.

I could draw a similar parallel with Richard Dawkins and other atheists that use a combative approach. Both groups are more or less trying to break a taboo (the one being using critical thinking with regards to religion and deities, the other that meat is essential to a person's diet). However, the similarities end there...people can hate Dawkins, but few can actually argue successfully against his logic (I'd say none based on the counter-arguments I've read, but most people don't actually understand logic and critical thinking, his naysayers included). With PETA you have the other end of the spectrum, and you can poke holes in virtually everything PETA does to get the message out; examples for which are unending...throwing blood on people wearing fur, vandalism and protests against individual restaurants, advising people to eat an unhealthier diet (eating beef over chicken) so as to cause less animal suffering...I could go on an on.

I dated a girl several years ago who, after going vegan, showed pictures of slaughterhouse victims to customers at the restaurant she worked out. This of course accomplished nothing other than horrifying children and their parents and getting her fired (though I suppose the children might have been horrified enough to not eat meat, but I doubt that in the south their parents would learn to feed them a balanced diet sans meat. Her tactic was reminiscent of PETA's...use outlandish stunts to shock and horrify people into compliance. Now, I certainly don't mind that information being used to educate people, and we all know it has to be, but the manner in which you educate people determines how well they learn if at all.

My point is that trying to force people to change is always a poor tactic...people instinctively fight against forced coercion and in the end you cause more harm than good, as you have to correct the impression people have that this information is incorrect, spread by some wacko organization. The only good thing I've seen come from PETA is the "I can't believe its Vegan" list, and even that I have a problem with as it promotes the consumption of manufactured food.

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I doubt that in the south their parents would learn to feed them a balanced diet sans meat.

Wow.  Not to get off topic too much, but that's a bit judgmental, don't you think?  I see you live in SC (as do I).  Surely you've run into at least a few intelligent people here. 

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