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Free-Range Eggs & Being Vegan

I'm am a veteran ovo-lacto vegetarian, and just went vegan in the beginning of 2008.  I went veg*n for animal rights/ethical reasons.  I know store bought free-range, cage-free is actually a big sham and that the practices are horrific. Lately, a few people have asked me about raising my own animals - if I would eat the eggs then.  For instance, my husband (who is ovo-lacto veggie), buys eggs from his friend who has a small farm in northern liberty.  She doesn't really sell them - just to a few close friends - she charges him like $1 for a dozen.  but we've been to her property, the chickens seemingly live a very happy life.  I've been asked the same questions about milk - if i had a single cow, and milked it - would it be okay then?

My argument for not eating eggs:  they would eventually hatch into baby chicks. in addition, i can't imagine taking the egg from a mother hen....

My argument for not drinking milk:  it's not natural to consume the milk of another animal.

I live in the mid-west and don't know a lot of other vegans (ok, none).  So i'm turning to you guys for other reasons.  I don't even know if mine are justifiable reasons.  I mean, i am completely comfortable saying, "i just don't.  it's my choice."...  but i'm curious about other reasons people have.  It would be very insightful. 

Thanks!

I pretty much would have the same arguments.  I mean, the cow wouldn't be producing milk unless there was a baby calf on the way, so taking the milk that's for her baby, I imagine would put her under some undue stress, physically and possibly emotionally as well. 

I think eggs are icky... but I use your argument a lot.  Plus, neither of these items (milk or eggs) are really that good for us.

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This belongs on the News & Debates board.

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yeah, put it on the news and debate board, remind me about it (i don't check there enough) and i will answer.  >:D

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ive been wondering about this too..people always tell me that cows need to be milked and stuff and also ask me why i dont drink organic milk since they dont use hormones blahblahblah. and i never have an answer..

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I've moved this to the New & Debates board so that we can have a robust discussion. 

Please go to the following link to post comments.

http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=24029.0

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go hh!  ;)b

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gee, i'm sorry.  i read the description for this board that says:

"General chit chat, including support for transitioning to a vegan, vegetarian or raw food diet."

Since i wasn't looking for a debate, but rather looking for support as i transition to a vegan diet, i thought this was the appropriate place to post.

i apologize.

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No worries!  We just know from past experience that these kinds of topics can be controversial and open to debate. 

I replied on the other thread.  :)

Congratulations on transitioning!
*support support support*

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Agreed.  Not a problem.

I think that how we divide things (I might be wrong) is to put the philosophical questions in News & Debates, because we're not sure what direction they'll take and if someone wants to agree or disagree with another post that person doesn't feel like they have to hold back because the thread is on the Chit Chat board.

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Miss_v   I'm not a vegan, dont think I could ever be one either.  Just now transitioning to vegetarian (ovo-lacto).  So I dont think I have any good arguments/reasons I can come up with for you.  But I have to tell you this: 

First, I applaud you for doing what you do. I dont think it's easy to make such big life changes when there's no one else around you that's doing it with you. 

And second, I think that whatever your reasons, they are good enough.  If they are good enough for you, then that's all that matters.  Dont ever second guess your self.  Sometimes, we just cant put how we feel in words.  If not consuming those products, not matter how organic they are and what not, dosent feel right to you, then that should be good enough reason.  That's what I think.    ;)b

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And second, I think that whatever your reasons, they are good enough.  If they are good enough for you, then that's all that matters.  Dont ever second guess your self.  Sometimes, we just cant put how we feel in words.  If not consuming those products, not matter how organic they are and what not, dosent feel right to you, then that should be good enough reason.  That's what I think.    ;)b

thanks for the support.  luckily, i'm pretty self-confident, so when people continue to needle me about things like this, i eventually just go into 'back off!' mode... 
it struck me as something that vegans probably have to deal with a lot, so i was curious how other handle it. 

congrats on going veggie - whatever stage you are in! 

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And second, I think that whatever your reasons, they are good enough.  If they are good enough for you, then that's all that matters.  Dont ever second guess your self.  Sometimes, we just cant put how we feel in words.  If not consuming those products, not matter how organic they are and what not, dosent feel right to you, then that should be good enough reason.  That's what I think.    ;)b

thanks for the support.  luckily, i'm pretty self-confident, so when people continue to needle me about things like this, i eventually just go into 'back off!' mode... 
it struck me as something that vegans probably have to deal with a lot, so i was curious how other handle it. 

congrats on going veggie - whatever stage you are in! 

Le word.
Preach it!

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