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Cat have a urinary tract infection?

Has anybodies cat ever had one of these?  Scooter is at the vet right now, nothing seems life threatening or anything, but his pee-pee is bothering  him.  I notice him going in and out of the cat box several times in a short amount of time.  And he is licking his pee-pee a lot more than usual, and the wierdest thing is when he licks it, he growls and meows like it hurts.  Has anybody else seen this with their cat?  He is still eating, and he was playing with Sidra this morning so obviously he isn't feeling too bad, and he is still fat so he  hasn't lost any weight.  I think he is going to be okay, but I always worry about my fur-babies. 

It's good you took him to the vet. Male indoor cats are very susceptible to UTIs. Mine was very sick one time while we were away for a long weekend. His urinary tract was blocked and he had to have surgery. Now he is on special food & he hasn't had any problems. Since your cat is still eating & paying, I'm sure it's not that bad, but the vet may want you to put him on special food.

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Actually, it could be life threatening so it's a good thing he's at the vet! Some cats are prone to urinary crystals/stones, and male cats especially can develop urinary obstructions (often characterized by going in and out of the box and not urinating) which can be fatal if not treated quickly. One of my cats has a problem with urinary crystals and he blocked once, but has been fine after being on a prescription diet for urinary problems.

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I went through the same thing lisaanddini did with my Nelson (RIP).  He was 3 years old when he had the surgery and lived to be 17 without a re-occurrence of the problem.  One of the things you need to look at is how much ash is in the cat food you use.  Ash = bad for kitty and contributes to blockage.

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Even though cats manufacture their own vitamin C, we supplement with 1500 mg a day separated into three doses for struvite crystals when they occur.

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My old cat used to get them all the time...be prepared that you might have to give your cat antibiotics, which means pills...always a fun experience with cats!  My cat used to pretend to swallow and then spit the pill out.

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Actually, it is pretty easy to give my cats pills.  They are so trusting, they pretty much let me do anything.  It is actually easier to give pills than liquids. 

It is strange for Scooter to have problems, I always thought he was the "supercat"!  He never gets sick. 

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Just talked to the vet.

Sounds like I took him to the vet just in time!  He has crystals in his urine and he has a very mild bladder infection.  They are sending out a sample to a lab to test the bacteria in the urine to see if he even needs any antibiotics, and they are going to put him on prescription cat food for the crystals.  She also told me that I need to get a kitty fountain.  I always thought those were really silly, now I am being told by my vet to get one.  I am going to be one of those geeks with a kitty fountain!  He is okay, and the vet said that he was a good boy.  He acted kind of grumpy while he was in the cage, but as soon as they got him out he was really good.  That's my Scooter.

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I had a cat fountain before my cat blocked :| but anyway.. they love it! I also keep bowls of water around the house so they don't have to travel too far if they're thirsty (cause I figure how annoying it would be if I had to walk all the way to the kitchen every time I wanted a sip of water?). Feeding wet food also helps get more liquid into the diet and helps keep the urine dilute. Prescription food is quite costly though so only my one cat gets that, and only gets one meal of wet food a day, and is fed in a seperate room from the other cat with the door shut so he can't eat the other food.

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Be careful with the prescription foods.  I know that the Royal Canin urinary formula just contains more sodium to stimulate drinking (by basically dehydrating your cat) so they will naturally dilute the amount of crystals in their urine.  Do some research on foods to make sure this isn't the case with the food your vet prescribed.

I'm glad your kitty is OK  :)>>>

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Be careful with the prescription foods.  I know that the Royal Canin urinary formula just contains more sodium to stimulate drinking (by basically dehydrating your cat) so they will naturally dilute the amount of crystals in their urine.  Do some research on foods to make sure this isn't the case with the food your vet prescribed.

I'm glad your kitty is OK  :)>>>

It also changes the pH of the urine to make it less hospitable to the formation of urinary crystals. My cats been eating it for 2 yrs now and his drinking/urinating habits haven't changed at all, he's not the slightest bit dehydrated, and he hasn't had any reoccurance of urinary crystals (not that they are more dilute - they aren't there). I switched him TO the Waltham because he BLOCKED on the Hill's (and originally developed crystals on crazy expensive all natural cat food). All I'm saying is it's easy enough to say DON'T give your cat this food or that food, but honestly, I don't care what it's made of - it has prevented him from developing crystals again and it's better that than more ER visits and expensive, painful surgery to create a larger urinary opening. It's easy enough to say things are bad when you're not in the position of needing them.

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Our vet put one of my cats on s/d.  He knows how I feel about Hills products in general and told me that if I could find a natural food that is similar nutritionally it would be fine.  The s/d food works by forcing the body to reabsorb the minerals from the crystals because it is primarly made of cornstarch.  Since I don't think that forcing a nutritional deficiency is a great way to get my cat healthy, I tried another option.

We switched the cats to distilled water (instead of Brita water), began alternating between either cooked meat (organic turkey or line-caught fish) or grain-free canned cat food with a low magnesium content.  Also, Vitamin C (particularly the absorbic acid form) is acidic enough to assist in breaking down the crystals naturally.  It works better than the s/d food.  The only caution with Vitamin C is that it is very sour and can make cats gag.  I mix Gizmo's with a few drops of maple syrup and she doesn't mind it as much.  (She did NOT like it mixed with broth or gravy).

For symptoms (urgency, licking, straining) we're using two homeopathics - urtica urens (30c) and cantharis (30c) along with rescue remedy drops.

We check her urine pH once a week and adjust the dose of Vitamin C accordingly.  You can buy pH test strips at most HFS or pharmacies.

With male cats, you do have to be more careful as they have a narrow urethra that can easily become blocked and create a life threatening condition. 

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I took my male cat to the vet and they said he was blocked.  They catheterized him so he could pass the crystals.  They charged me $1,100.00 to do this.  They also wanted me to put him on Science Diet. 
While all this was going on, I started doing some research.  I found out that cats don’t really drink water.  They get most of their hydration from the food they eat.  So, dry food is a really bad idea for male cats.  I believe the most important thing you can do is NOT feed your male cat dry food.  It’s also a good idea to give them distilled water rather than tap. 
Now, I only give my cats canned food (Wellness, no grain) & I add a bit of water to it for good measure.  If I could stomach it, I would have them on a raw diet.  All I can say is do some research on your own and decide what is best.

Good luck!

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I spent $400!  AHHHHHH.  Just when I thought that credit card was paid off.  Bah.  Anyway, the vet put him on Waltham's urinary formula...I think that is what it was, I looked it up on the internet and the bag looks the same.  Preferrably, she wants me to switch him to a canned food diet, so I put out some prescription canned food, neither he nor Sidra would touch it.  I finally opened up a can of Fancy Feast, mixed in a little bit of the canned prescription food, and...well Sidra anyway, ate it.  Scooter still wouldn't touch it.  I put the new prescription dry food mixed 1/2 and 1/2 with the old food for him and he gladly ate that.  But I haven't noticed him drinking any water. 

But a good thing I noticed, he peed last night when I brought him home from the vet.  He was still acting like his pee pee was hurting, the vet gave me some pain meds to give him.  He went into the cat box, and I watched him, he got out, leaving about 2 drops of pee.  Then he wandered around, and then went back to the cat box, and peed again, this time it was a good amount, and he obviously was in less pain after that.  I gave him some more pain meds when I got up this morning. 

The vet seems to think that it is the crystals that are bothering him, rather than an infection, but she sent out a urinary sample to a lab to  have it tested just in case it is an infection. 

I am still worried because I haven't noticed him drinking any water, and he refuses to touch any moist food.  Do you think he knows that if he drinks water it will make him have to pee?  I want to switch him to moist food, but if he refuses to touch it, what am I to do?  I am thinking that for now just give him the dry prescription food for awhile since I have a whole huge bag of it and see if his crystals clear up. 

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If he'll eat the dry food, start him with that. I had to try a few different varieties of canned before I found one my cat would eat. He does like the waltham urinary SO cans.. they also come in pouches with bits in gravy. Hills make several flavors of C/D, IVD makes a food called Modified for crystals (I think it's Modified... they have wacky names and I've been out of the vet biz for a few years now), and Eukanuba also has a prescription food for urinary things. If your vet doesn't carry them, or won't sell you a can or two of each to try, get him to write you an Rx for the foods and call around to other vets to find one who sells them and can sell you a few cans of each. You can also try increasing his liquids by trying low sodium chicken broth (homemade is best.. but i know, blech), watered down Stage 1 Babyfood meats, or cat milk. If he's a catnip fan, you might try sprinkling a little catnip on the wet food to make him interested in it, or you could try heating the food a bit to make it stinkier. Adding additional water bowls around the house could encourage him to drink more, and you could try things like putting ice cubes in it (somehow amusing to some cats).

I hope your boy feels better soon! This can be a stressful problem to get under control, but I'm sure you'll both be just fine in the end :)

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All I'm saying is it's easy enough to say DON'T give your cat this food or that food, but honestly, I don't care what it's made of - it has prevented him from developing crystals again and it's better that than more ER visits and expensive, painful surgery to create a larger urinary opening. It's easy enough to say things are bad when you're not in the position of needing them.

I stand firm on my position against Royal Canin/Hill's/Eukanuba/Purina normal and prescription diets.  If you compare nutrient analysis and ingredients, there are far better foods out there that do the same job but probably better because of the lack of by-products/grains/other junk.  My parents have a cat with kidney failure and she did awful on the prescription food (so I'm not just saying "don't feed this" without experience--we've had bad experiences with prescription food).  She now eats Innova kibble and AvoDerm canned and is healthier than she's been for a while--her kidneys are maintaining themselves well, her coat is mat-free (she was always matted before the food switch), and she's spunky as a kitty (and she's 15 years old).  I've worked for places that sell the prescription foods and they get a financial kickback for every bag/can they sell.  Vets are largely uninformed about pet foods beyond knowing stuff about Hill's and Waltham (because they give money to vet schools and sponsor nutrition courses).

SnowQueen:  You might want to take a look at the Wellness Complete Health dry cat food and their canned varieties.  Here's a link to the info on the dry:  http://www.wellnesspetfood.com/cat_wellness_dry_complete_health_chicken.html

They've formulated it to prevent urinary problems and there is a lower ash and magnesium content than what the prescription food has (Waltham's dry = 9% ash, 7% magnesium; Wellness dry = less than 6% ash; less than 1% magnesium).  It's a bit pricey, but my cat's eat the indoor formula and love it.  The Complete Health comes in either poultry or fish varieties, depending on your cats' preference.  Also, try some of their grain-free canned varieties.  Even my picky cat gobbles it up :)

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I think I tend to agree with you about the prescription cat food.  His food is the Royal Canin, I figured it out.  This stuff:
http://www.royalcanin.us/adx/aspx/adxGetMedia.aspx?DocID=134,12,1,Documents&MediaID=2189&Filename=PG-FelineUrinaryDryCan.pdf

But according to the ingredients, this stuff looks like crap!  I was feeding him this all organic cat food before, with Chicken and Turkey listed as the first ingredients, no corn.  But he has these crystals now, and I want to get rid of them.  I just want to do what the vet tells me too, for now, when these crystals clear up, then I will try different things, mainly, switching him to a canned food diet mainly, but for now, I just want to do exactly what the vet tells me to.  I don't want to loose my fur-baby. 

Oh, she also told me to start feeding him on a schedule, and I am going to do that.  So I am going to start feeding him only 2x a day, the dry food.  Then after he is adjusted to that, I think I will try to switch him to a canned food diet.

But does anyone have any suggestions as to how to switch him to canned food?  Right now, he doesn't like canned food at all, even the crappy stuff like Fancy Feast. 

And I am going to take the advice to put water bowls in different places too, if there is lots of water available, maybe it is more likely he will drink more. 

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It took a long time to switch my cats to canned food (cats are so finicky with textures), but now they'll eat a whole raw meat patty without thinking twice.  Mix a small (like a tsp) of the canned in with the dry and see if they'll eat that.  If they do, then increase the amt. next time. Eventually, you can get them to eat straight canned, but it might take a couple of weeks.  You could also try adding a bit of water to the dry and letting it sit a couple of minutes to get soft.  2 of my cats like it that way, but the other one just wants the dry kibble or canned--the water turns her off.

I understand wanting to make sure your kitty is OK.  Maybe ask your vet about other foods or take the label of a different food in to show him/her to compare nutrient analysis/ingredients.  It's not going to harm your cat long-term if you just feed the Royal Canin (also known as Waltham or IVD) for a month or so.  But you might want to look at other options once the bag is gone since by-products=yuck  :P  And that prescription food is not cheap for how low of quality of ingredients it contains.

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SQ: You may be able to find some information on transitioning to a wet diet on this forum. I'm sure if it's not in the archives you could post a new message. You may need to register to post, but it's a free site.

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My cats were used to dry food whenever they wanted it & a can of wet at night.  It was a frustrating process to get my little guy used to 2 meals a day & no more dry.  But he did get used to it.

Here is a link to a site with great tips for transitioning to wet food.
http://www.catinfo.org/

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My cats were used to dry food whenever they wanted it & a can of wet at night.  It was a frustrating process to get my little guy used to 2 meals a day & no more dry.  But he did get used to it.

Here is a link to a site with great tips for transitioning to wet food.
http://www.catinfo.org/

Wow, thank you for that article.  It was VERY informative.  They mentioned one thing in there about the crystals, sounds as if this is fairly common and isn't something to be too concerned about.  But he was experiencing the pain, and the article addressed that too, it said that these inflamations crop up then disapear with or without treatment in a week usually.  Wierd.  But it did say that pain meds are important for relieving stress, which he is on right now.  The article also reasurred me that my vet is doing the right things, that made me feel better, except the cat food.  Yes, that prescription cat food is crap, and he is definately not staying on it.  I will not be buying any more of it!  But he will stay on it until it is gone then I will see about finding a good HIGH quality canned cat food for him.

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